[CP] Rachel Alucard Gameplay Discussion

[TD]

Hey guys.

The mixup thread is done. Just have to edit it which is the worst part x.x

And, I was thinking of renaming it the strategy/tactics compendium or something of that sort. Thoughts?

I think you guys are going to like it. It has quite a bunch of new stuff, some of the old stuff, and a lot of info scattered throughout the old thread inside. And resets!

[Tari]

I can't say I worry too much about nerfs suggested by frame data since I've already seen what she can do through N-O and the likes and I have no concern.

As a character, she's totally fine, hah. I think most of us are just curious as to what exact changes she's gotten (what's safe or not anymore).

For example, the 3C blockstun nerf makes the gimmick of 3C/3[C] (non-IB) > 2C no longer viable against 5-frame 5As, as the gap non-IB is too long now.

[Stoneroth]

As a character, she's totally fine, hah. I think most of us are just curious as to what exact changes she's gotten (what's safe or not anymore).

For example, the 3C blockstun nerf makes the gimmick of 3C/3[C] (non-IB) > 2C no longer viable against 5-frame 5As, as the gap non-IB is too long now.

This.

I wouldn't say Rachel is worse at all, just different. I sometimes struggled to get a feel for CP Rachel even when just doing things like zoning and summoning, maybe it was just me but there seemed to be some slight changes in frame data/move properties I wasn't aware of. It easily could of been me not playing well though.

Anyway, I really enjoyed playing CP Rachel so can't wait for the console release.

N-O makes Rachel look damn right scary.

Has Rachel's new AH input been mentioned? (sorry I don't really keep up-to-date here). It's 2363214C if anyone was wondering, and her AH is too amazing.

[gamester]

Makes sense as I wouldn't want to do accidental Lotus but knowing myself and nerves at times I'll probably end up doing BBL somehow xD

And, I was thinking of renaming it the strategy/tactics compendium or something of that sort. Thoughts?

@TD: I think strategy/tactics compendium is ok, you might want in brackets though (Mixups/Pressure) like the currently named thread just to reinforce the point that the thread will contain mixups and whatnot. People might see the words tactics and strategy similar to how you would go about fighting specific characters like the matchups sub board is for. I'm also thinking that the term mixups and pressure seem more like keywords people keep an eye out for. I may be wrong though but I thought I'd put down what was running through my mind and hopefully provide some feedback to your question

EDIT:

I've put up the Key in the Rachel Video Thread for each characters 2 letters (initials/abbreviations or whatever you wish to call them) that now represent them in video links that are posted.

Edited April 14, 2013 by gamester

[TD]

Alright guys, it's up. Prepare your bodies.

Oh, and do mind the general blandness and lack of consistent punctuation, I got good marks in my English class lol. But I was just more ah... Focused on the information. For now anyway. I will continue to clean up the thread over time. Of course, adding whatever gets discovered until cp.

Any thoughts or input at all is also encouraged. Speak your mind.

Makes sense as I wouldn't want to do accidental Lotus but knowing myself and nerves at times I'll probably end up doing BBL somehow xD

@TD: I think strategy/tactics compendium is ok, you might want in brackets though (Mixups/Pressure) like the currently named thread just to reinforce the point that the thread will contain mixups and whatnot. People might see the words tactics and strategy similar to how you would go about fighting specific characters like the matchups sub board is for. I'm also thinking that the term mixups and pressure seem more like keywords people keep an eye out for. I may be wrong though but I thought I'd put down what was running through my mind and hopefully provide some feedback to your question

EDIT:

I've put up the Key in the Rachel Video Thread for each characters 2 letters (initials/abbreviations or whatever you wish to call them) that now represent them in video links that are posted.

Good points, I decided to leave the name. It has a nice ring to it as well, as you mentioned.

edit: I was also thinking of creating/linking several video examples to the topics, but that may have to wait.

Edited April 14, 2013 by TD

[gamester]

Glad I was able to provide you with some feedback

Btw, Rachel neno looks amazing.

I really need a job... I've been searching for a while now ;_;

I've only caught on about the two new characters. Guess I could make a space for them in the Video Thread in preparation for their release, even if they are console only. I wonder if the Rachel neno will come with the EU version though? Or I may import to ensure I get that neno xD

I really want her to travel around with me in my shirt pocket.

[Minutes]

TOO DAMN CUTE!!

Is anyone going to Civil War? (I guess technically it starts tonight. I think I'm going tomorrow)

[RurouniLoneWolf]

Yup. That Rachel figurine is pretty nice. Too bad it's a Nendoroid though. I can never get them on the stand properly >,<

[gamester]

Neno petite can be worse than normal nendoroids , especially the BRS ones. I still can't get Dead Masters Scythe on without making everything else fall apart. Same for BRS cannon xD By the looks of things Gii looks like he'll be troublesome to get on his stand...

Btw I forgot to mention on here I've changed all the character names in the CP Rachel Video Thread, I've put up the key to who's initials/2 letters belong to which character on the latest post and in the post that shows the Japanese Rachel Player Rankings and Combo videos

[Wild Candy]

Rachel looks like tons of fun this time around, and seems to have some fun and practical combos this time around.

I said it before, but I'll say it again. So freaking hyped to pile Lobelia's in the corner and go for a Baden-Baden Lily kill!

[samthegreat]

Is 3C really -1? I'm asking 'cause I've seen a lot of 3C>5A frame traps recently (from N-O and others) and they got 5A CH eeeevery time.

Just an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPnlxVh9P4o&feature=player_detailpage#t=1070s

N-O does something like 2A>5B>3C>9D>5A and it worked twice on Galileo.

[gamester]

;_; I missed out on the LE pre-orders. I really want that Rachel neno and now I'm kicking myself and everything. I got caught up in work I didn't check DL this morning.

[Minutes]

;_; I missed out on the LE pre-orders. I really want that Rachel neno and now I'm kicking myself and everything. I got caught up in work I didn't check DL this morning.

What the fuck? T_T it didn't even occur to me that it would be possible to pre-order it yet

[Celerity]

Nooooooooooo.... ;_;

[Kyosuke Kagami]

Zup fellas

*has 2 preorders*

Dudes, you should keep on checking AmiAmi or P-A, it seems like they restock with preorders once a day. But be warned: P-A is increasing the price (10 dollars) each time they restock.

There's also Yesasia, but fuck them (160 usd lmao)

Edited April 26, 2013 by Kyosuke Kagami

[gamester]

Even if 160 USD sounds cheaper in GBP, £105. It's still too much.

P-A (I assume you mean Play-Asia, I'm not very good with abbreviations) I guess I'll have to stalk the website night and day on my PS3 web browser waiting as I don't have my own computer.

Amazon JP was too much for me to Navigate, I could only make an account and then I couldn't figure out the rest ;_;

[Juraya]

I was lucky enough to pick up the LE´s just as they appeared on play-asia for about 85 Euro + shipping :D

Just couldnt catch anything on amiami, it was always gone. But just keep trying, you should be getting one eventually, I think.

And seriouslx, wth is wrong with yesasia? oO ~ 120 euro are ridiculous

[sinder]

is it region locked?

don't wanna do a blind buy

[gamester]

I don't care, I want Rachel xD

And other swag to go towards my BlazBlue shrine I'm trying to build. I'm going to be up all night and morning checking for CP LE. Luckily it's a weekend.

Rachel -----> She will be mine

[Kyosuke Kagami]

is it region locked?

don't wanna do a blind buy

I bet it'll be region free.

I don't think Arcsys will be as anal as Atlus was with P4U.

[Wild Candy]

I'm personally really on the fence wondering if I want to pre-order the Japanese Version or hold out for the english version...

[Juraya]

Well yeah, if the english version will be soonafter the japanese one, I might reconsider canceling my order.

On the other side I´d really like to get that Rachel figurine, since, let´s face it, the english version wont have one 99%

Gotta get an english version anyway later, since I kind of wont be able to play the story, unless they put in english texts like they did in p4u (afaik).

[Celerity]

Does AmiAmi e-mail you when items on your watch list come in stock? Otherwise I'm going to be doing some obsessive F5'ing for the next few days...

[gamester]

I'm F5'ing now. I've got Dr.Pepper and my will to go on. All day and night. Keeping my eyes open and checking things regularly. I'll be getting the EU version when that happens as well, for I can't read Japanese.

Edit: I shouldn't be doing this but I'm putting this before my college work xD I got a lot of work to catch up on soon as this is all over and my goal is reached. Hopefully I'll reach it otherwise my work doesn't get done.

Edited April 26, 2013 by gamester

[samthegreat]

First time they re-stocked was around midnight EST. That's when I pre-ordered.