BlackYakuzu94 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I wish you wouldn't talk about me when I'm not here. Oh you
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 True story bro. I got into argument on what is Noel's actual age some time ago. It really didn't go anywhere. Noel is five, technically. How old the cast is depends on how big of an age gap exists between most characters. Ragna is the oldest of the A team, and is probably 22-24. In the flashbacks he looks young, but not that young; his voice is almost as deep as it is as an adult and he's definitely gone through puberty. At the time when Jin and Saya were kidnapped he was probably 15-17. That plus seven years puts his age at 22-24. Jin is anywhere from 2-5 years younger than Ragna, although I just went with 3. Saya seems to be a little younger than that. If he graduated and entered combat at 18, it would put him about 20-21--with Chrono Phantasma very close to his birthday. Noel, Makoto, and Tsubaki graduated a couple years later, so right now they're probably about 18? 19? Other characters generally don't have a lot of information to extrapolate from. Ragna - 22-24 Jin - 20-22 Noel - 17-19 (five technically) Tsubaki - 17-18 Makoto - 17-18 Carl - 12-14
FR05tB1t3 BOB Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 The official contents kit for BBCP has finally confirmed that the game's emblem belongs to Amaterasu. what is a contents kit?
TPPR10 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Noel is five, technically. Should that be six? (Born in December 25, 2196, with CS taking place at January 7, 2200) Also, Relius would techinally be over 100 years old, if you only take account it by years and not in his psychical age due of his time jump.
Emma Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Should that be six? (Born in December 25, 2196, with CS taking place at January 7, 2200) Also, Relius would techinally be over 100 years old, if you only take account it by years and not in his psychical age due of his time jump. Actually, she was born in 2194. 2199-2194=5. It's only early in 2200. :x
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Should that be six? (Born in December 25, 2196, with CS taking place at January 7, 2200) Also, Relius would techinally be over 100 years old, if you only take account it by years and not in his psychical age due of his time jump. Born in 2194, but she didn't reach her fifth birthday until a little before Calamity Trigger. (She's older than that, really, but the series insists that a Murakumo's birthdate is their tempering.) I don't really count Relius because he's got a mess of an age. It's not even like he was in cryosleep, he just...jumped. You kind of have to cut out that 70 years from his life. Discounting those 70 years, he's in his forties. Likely mid to late forties at that. @B0B: It's an official kit from ArcSys containing some basic sprites, character art, low res emblems, palettes, etc. http://blazblue.jp/cp/special.html
TPPR10 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Aaand I cannot count how old some one is. Me am stoopid.
mAc Chaos Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Relius is more like 40, isn't he. He basically just time traveled.
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 At the earliest he's 20, but Phase 0 says that he's in his twenties. Put on 20 years (he was transported from 2099 to 2179), and you've got his current age. So, forties.
Orihalcon Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Defect willingly yeah I see why that wouldn't work but if the NOL had a way to control Azrael they would definitely go for that. I get the feeling that if they could control him, they'd already be trying to do so considering how he wants to fight Ragna and would probably kill him going all out, which would work perfectly for them. There's too many damn mysteries about him. Probally Luna's. Trinity's soul might had been trapped inside Muchorin for long time (I doubt she could have lived long enough to bbe alive for the events of the game) and, sorry, but I don't want another Bridget this way. For the love of God do not start this idiocy over what gender Platinum's body is; we don't need stupid people shouting "TRAP" like in the earlier days of CS. I'm pretty sure it got confirmed that Platinum's body is female on the Aksys forum when somebody asked about it, anyways.
TPPR10 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I would quote something, but nah. But the question was "Who's body Platinum's is?" so I have to put why it wouldn't be Sena's body.
raziel12 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 me i wonder wats ragna connection to makoto cause i looked thru all the alternate color sprite and they all seem connected to each other in some way â– Ragna - Makoto (unkown) â– Jin - Tsubaki/Izayoi (love and friendship) â– Noel - Nu (clones and Murakumo Units) â– Rachel - Valkenhayn (master and severant) â– Taokaka - Arakune (enemies) â– Tager - Bang (IDK lol) â– Platinum - Hazama (history of love and hate in someway) â– Relius - Carl (father and son) â– Bullet - Azrael (enemies or past comrades with each other over the incident) and etc but it makes me wonder wats ragna connection to makoto then unless they met each other in the past without knowing each other during his travels and training with jubei like in CS when ragna remembers meeting tao before i bet sum ppl might say dont read too much into it but kinda make since why Makoto and not Tao
TPPR10 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Some one said that the connection between Ragna and Makoto is hatred forwards them. Almost every one is after Ragna (ironically for the match-up, Makoto doesn't have special intro against him), and beastkin isn't exactly respected by common folk. Stupid theory which I had is that both of them have Sol color palette Other factor: beastkin (atleast most of them) were created in order to fight against the Black Beast, and do I have to say who Ragna is? Edited December 11, 2012 by TPPR10
mAc Chaos Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I wonder if Mu would be stronger than the Black Beast since she was supposed to be stronger than everybody.
raziel12 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Some one said that the connection between Ragna and Makoto is hatred forwards them. Almost every one is after Ragna (ironically for the match-up, Makoto doesn't have special intro against him), and Beastkin isn't exactly respected by common folk. Stupid theory which I had is that both of them have Sol color palette he does have a intro with her ragna is staring at her breast saying ''They're huge'' and makoto heard him lol when makoto wins the fight she ask him where he's staring at and some other stuff ragna said he would fight as human to the very end but in someway he doesnt care too much of humans i guess cause of his past and wat he is but he do gets along with beastkin more then humans
TPPR10 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 To be honest, I sort of gazed over the fact that Ragna vs Makoto has special intro now. So because Bang also has intro against him aswell (odd that he dodn't have before in my opinion), so I need to know does Amane has intro against Ragna? Because if so, then now every single character has intro agains Ragna.
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I think they just have a palette swap because the staff wanted them to. Plus Ragna likes animals. he does have a intro with her ragna is staring at her breast saying ''They're huge'' and makoto heard him lol when makoto wins the fight she ask him where he's staring at and some other stuff I think he was actually talking about her fluffy squirrel tail lol. Ragna's seen bigger, and he has this fixation with cute/fuzzy animals. In Makoto's CS winquote against him she gets mad because he tried to pet her tail and only Noel and Tsubaki are allowed to do that. Or it could be both.
raziel12 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 To be honest, I sort of gazed over the fact that Ragna vs Makoto has special intro now. So because Bang also has intro against him aswell (odd that he dodn't have before in my opinion), so I need to know does Amane has intro against Ragna? Because if so, then now every single character has intro agains Ragna. i think amane and ragna do have one we just havent seen it yet cause it always get skipped
raziel12 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I think they just have a palette swap because the staff wanted them to. Plus Ragna likes animals. I think he was actually talking about her fluffy squirrel tail lol. Ragna's seen bigger, and he has this fixation with cute/fuzzy animals. In Makoto's CS winquote against him she gets mad because he tried to pet her tail and only Noel and Tsubaki are allowed to do that. Or it could be both. lol yea we find out wats they connection to each other sooner or later but i do agree "what is ragna" we seem to know everyone past and birth but not ragna we know he is a Artificial human and have a #03 on his upper chest and is a orphan but most likey he is one of the original Murakumo Units by Clavis Alucard he gets more mysterious after another
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) lol yea we find out wats they connection to each other sooner or later but i do agree "what is ragna" we seem to know everyone past and birth but not ragna we know he is a Artificial human and have a #03 on his upper chest and is a orphan but most likey he is one of the original Murakumo Units by Clavis Alucard he gets more mysterious after another No. 5 actually. He's artificially created all right, but personally I don't think he's a Murakumo Unit. Original Murakumo Units by Clavis Alucard? What? I thought the first Murakumo Unit was a failure and made by Relius, Terumi, and Shuichiro. Are you thinking of the Original (Sankishin) Units? edit: wow that was a major typo. I meant Murakumo Unit, not doll. Edited December 11, 2012 by harmless kitten
WillWork4Instal Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 At the time when Jin and Saya were kidnapped he was probably 15-17. That plus seven years puts his age at 22-24. Speaking of which, he was probably around 17-19 when recieving the Bloodedge threads and knife. Tao was only either (in cat ages?) 2-4years old or less. So If he was 19, and she was 3, she would be about 7-9 years old right now.And Jubei is alive for over 100 (beastkins and long lives), so its not logical that Kakas or other Beastkin would mature fast. That's a little creepy now that I think about all the pictures some of Ark's artists drew of Tao.
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Speaking of which, he was probably around 17-19 when recieving the Bloodedge threads and knife. Tao was only either (in cat ages?) 2-4years old or less. So If he was 19, and she was 3, she would be about 7-9 years old right now.And Jubei is alive for over 100 (beastkins and long lives), so its not logical that Kakas or other Beastkin would mature fast. That's a little creepy now that I think about all the pictures some of Ark's artists drew of Tao. My memory's a little faulty but I think Ragna only started attacking Librarium bases two years ago, shortly after Jubei gave him the stuff. They parted ways after the church. This would make him about 20-22 years old. Ragna's portrait used for this sequence is his adult one, just sans jacket and sword. When he's introduced to Tao, it's his younger portrait (the one with his scrapped design), and his voice is a little higher. I would say that he's really more like 15-17 when he met Tao, and she could've been 5-7. (Is it mentioned how young she is at that point? I don't recall.) Approximately 7 years passed between the destruction of Ragna's home and the current game events, and one of the timelines in the CT Setting Material Collection (not sure about the CS one and I can't check right now) lists the event happening in 2192 or 93. So she could be 14 right now. Still kind of bad, but not as bad as like 9 lol. Beastkin maturing quickly makes sense because they were created as biological weapons, the Kakas especially. Do all beastkin have long lives? I'm not sure about that; Jubei, the Kakas, and Valk seem like special cases.
Orihalcon Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 lol yea we find out wats they connection to each other sooner or later but i do agree "what is ragna" we seem to know everyone past and birth but not ragna we know he is a Artificial human and have a #03 on his upper chest and is a orphan but most likey he is one of the original Murakumo Units by Clavis Alucard he gets more mysterious after another There is so much wrong with this that it hurts my brain. Relius made the Murakumos. Not Clavis. The Murakumo units all use Saya as their base. That fact alone means Ragna cannot be a Murakumo, as they're all female, and all based on Saya. I'd also say that he's Saya's brother and was born before she was kidnapped and they even started making Murakumos, but time travel could negate that shit. Either way, he's not a Murakumo, that's a given.
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 There is so much wrong with this that it hurts my brain. Relius made the Murakumos. Not Clavis. The Murakumo units all use Saya as their base. That fact alone means Ragna cannot be a Murakumo, as they're all female, and all based on Saya. I'd also say that he's Saya's brother and was born before she was kidnapped and they even started making Murakumos, but time travel could negate that shit. Either way, he's not a Murakumo, that's a given. Not all of the Murakumo Units use Saya as a base. Only the ones we have seen use Saya as a base: Lambda-11, Mu-12, and Nu-13. The first Murakumo Unit/zeroth prime field of this series was tempered in 2099, waaaay before Saya would ever be born (and then the whole experiment went wrong but that's not important). There were probably intermittent attempts at one in the following 100 years, although given that none of them are still around they were probably all failures (like Lambda) or were destroyed. Certainly Kokonoe knew of their existence, and in the Sector Seven sidestory Relius tells her that he will give her a Murakumo Unit (and we only see him making the bodies for Lambda, Mu, and Nu). Idk, it's possible even if it's not probable. Ragna's birth/creation is a bit of mystery. Personally I think he was just an attempt at a plain ol' supersoldier with Black Beast genes, or created for some other unrevealed purpose.
raziel12 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) lol one thing for certain is that everyone wants to know wat the hell is ragna and who created him i also discovered this when i was playing BBCSEX that when you beat ragna in versus mode Lambda says '' analysing character data denied denied'' which leave even more questions about him why she cant analysis him yet she can of everyone else Edited December 11, 2012 by raziel12
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