Orihalcon Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 The first Murakumo Unit/zeroth prime field of this series was tempered in 2099, waaaay before Saya would ever be born (and then the whole experiment went wrong but that's not important). There were probably intermittent attempts at one in the following 100 years, although given that none of them are still around they were probably all failures (like Lambda) or were destroyed. Certainly Kokonoe knew of their existence, and in the Sector Seven sidestory Relius tells her that he will give her a Murakumo Unit (and we only see him making the bodies for Lambda, Mu, and Nu). Refer to what I said about the series fucking with the time-space continuum rendering when somebody was born completely moot. For all we know, Terumi grabbed Saya from the present to use her as a base in the past which is really the future so they can make the Ghost of Christmas Past From the Future. Ragna is something artificial clearly, but a Murakumo Unit he isn't. Also, we already know what the fates of the other Murakumos are. Remember Makoto's story in CSE?
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Refer to what I said about the series fucking with the time-space continuum rendering when somebody was born completely moot. For all we know, Terumi grabbed Saya from the present to use her as a base in the past which is really the future so they can make the Ghost of Christmas Past From the Future. Ragna is something artificial clearly, but a Murakumo Unit he isn't. Also, we already know what the fates of the other Murakumos are. Remember Makoto's story in CSE? There is no need to be so aggressive. The series zigzags through time a lot, but that's kind of taken to an entirely new level. It would mean she was taken to the past to create the Murakumo Units all throughout time and then taken to the future. If Terumi could plan something like that, I think he would've taken steps to ensure that the Black Beast wasn't such a colossal failure. Those Murakumos were base bodies for Lambda or Mu and never used or were failures (S7 tried to temper Mu-12 twice before the disaster at Ibukido and there were 3 base bodies created for Nu, so there's already the precedent of a lot of base bodies for the Murakumo Units lying around). Plus it would mean Sector Seven fucked up enough to produce a LOT of failed Murakumo Units. @raziel12: I think Kokonoe took steps to try to keep Nu's Ragna complex under control, including keeping Ragna's profile from Lambda. Lambda starts to glitch up as soon as she hears Ragna's name, so any more information could've led her seriously astray or cause her to glitch up more. Edited December 11, 2012 by harmless kitten
mAc Chaos Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Would Terumi even care if the Black Beast was a failure. More lulz to go around.
raziel12 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) i dont think it can be consider a failure now since he tampured with Nu now as the ''sword of hades'' and now Ragna completed azure gremiore with the ideal engine but the problem now is wat will happen if Ragna absorb her Azure Grimoire or Nu absorb his Edited December 11, 2012 by raziel12
Vulcan422 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 It was still detrimental to his overall scheme, whatever it is.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 It was still detrimental to his overall scheme, whatever it is. Trolling everyone as much as possible.
Vulcan422 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Going by that, with the Black Beast killing everything Terumi would have nobody left to troll eventually, and he would fade from existence.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Going by that, with the Black Beast killing everything Terumi would have nobody left to troll eventually, and he would fade from existence. Maybe that's his idea of resting in peace?
harmless kitten Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I don't think the guy will be satisfied until everyone else is living a nightmare... Also, I'm sure that Ragna is talking about Makoto's tail. In his CSE win quote against her he ahs and ums and finally says her tail is really big. "You're...um...well...that...um...tail of yours...is pretty...uh...damn big, isn't it?" <-- actual quote
drzero7 Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 is there like a translation or info site of what happens in Phase 0? Just want to know the info but... yeah, all in moonspeak.
Tokkan Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I don't think the guy will be satisfied until everyone else is living a nightmare... Also, I'm sure that Ragna is talking about Makoto's tail. In his CSE win quote against her he ahs and ums and finally says her tail is really big. "You're...um...well...that...um...tail of yours...is pretty...uh...damn big, isn't it?" <-- actual quote ... That's sounds like he's nervous and is avoiding saying a certain something. Saying "Tail" was probably an excuse.
Ctrlaltwtf Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 ... That's sounds like he's nervous and is avoiding saying a certain something. Saying "Tail" was probably an excuse. Nose.
harmless kitten Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) ... That's sounds like he's nervous and is avoiding saying a certain something. Saying "Tail" was probably an excuse. Idk, it seems fitting to me. Ragna seems to like petting soft, fuzzy animals--after he realizes the Hero Jubei is a cat he starts petting him and coos about how soft his fur is. Plus, he's seen bigger but doesn't even seem fazed around Litchi (although he does imply he thinks she's a hooker or escort). I forgot to note that in Makoto's win quote, he tries to touch it and she tells him to go away. Makoto: Tsubaki and Noel are the only ones allowed to touch my tail...! Now shoo! Shoo I tell you! Edited December 12, 2012 by harmless kitten
heavymetalmixer Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 I don't think Ragna is looking at "those two", because he says nothing about "those two" of Litchi.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Yeah, it's no secret that Ragna likes fluffy things.
shamash.phi Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Specials intros sub english, Part1 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvnuz9_bbcp-special-intros-1_videogames#.UMffF3dWVdA Part2 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvtn15_bbcp-special-intros-2_videogames#.UMffQ3dWVdA Oh, and this is "interesting":
Darlos9D Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Oh, and this is "interesting": ... muh? ... I would kill for a new Makoto outfit.
harmless kitten Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 ... muh? ... I would kill for a new Makoto outfit. Pre-battle outfit that she takes off, like her NOL coat in CS.
SolxBaiken Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 ... I would kill for a new Makoto outfit. completely redraw a character that isn't "mai waifu"!? Not on my watch!
Darlos9D Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Ah, yeah, I guess she wouldn't be wearing the NOL outfit, would she? Heh heh, err... THE UNDERBOOB JUST BOTHERS ME OKAY. It's not even about fanservice. It's just ever time I see her boobs and her top I'm like "no support aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAH." Yeah yeah "tons of unrealistic things in BB" I know but it still drives me nuts. HAHA NUTS BECAUSE SHE'S A SQUIRREL RIGHT okay that's enough from me tonight.
ThatOnePerson Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 completely redraw a character that isn't "mai waifu"!? Not on my watch! Well, that's kind of a downer. I am really liking that coat. I mean, really, that is a very nice coat. so cute.
Elochai Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Specials intros sub english, Part1 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvnuz9_bbcp-special-intros-1_videogames#.UMffF3dWVdA Part2 http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvtn15_bbcp-special-intros-2_videogames#.UMffQ3dWVdA Oh, and this is "interesting": What "nonsense" is Valkenhayn referring to in his intro vs. Relius?
harmless kitten Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Ah, yeah, I guess she wouldn't be wearing the NOL outfit, would she? Heh heh, err... THE UNDERBOOB JUST BOTHERS ME OKAY. It's not even about fanservice. It's just ever time I see her boobs and her top I'm like "no support aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAH." Yeah yeah "tons of unrealistic things in BB" I know but it still drives me nuts. HAHA NUTS BECAUSE SHE'S A SQUIRREL RIGHT okay that's enough from me tonight. Ya, I feel ya. It bothers me too and it wouldn't be at all comfortable for her... Makoto, just get a sports bra that actually fits you. @Elochai: I think he just means "you're a right bastard and I'm not gonna listen to a thing you say."
BlackYakuzu94 Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Ah, yeah, I guess she wouldn't be wearing the NOL outfit, would she? Heh heh, err... THE UNDERBOOB JUST BOTHERS ME OKAY. It's not even about fanservice. It's just ever time I see her boobs and her top I'm like "no support aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAH." Yeah yeah "tons of unrealistic things in BB" I know but it still drives me nuts. HAHA NUTS BECAUSE SHE'S A SQUIRREL RIGHT okay that's enough from me tonight. Tell me about, it's like how do they not pop out?
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