[CP] Amane Nishiki Gameplay Discussion

[SoWL]

So, the anime palette is #13, the black-white-red one (no, the other one). And I got no clue at all about who it is.

And he got P3 protag as the Persona palette. Well that's surprising.

[Toasty]

Well yeah. So far, our sub-thread is the most active out of the threads for the 3 new characters.

We're at 40 pages and the others still haven't even hit 15.

Besides, what character can look this fabulous while making you lose 20% from chip?

I get the feeling that he'll be the least played out of the new characters upon console release, but the good news here is that our community is more active than that of the other characters so we'll be able to share tech and matchup knowledge more readily.

[SoWL]

I get the feeling that he'll be the least played out of the new characters upon console release, but the good news here is that our community is more active than that of the other characters so we'll be able to share tech and matchup knowledge more readily.

And Bullet, who is probably going to be the most popular, got the least active forum so far. Funny how things work sometimes.

[Aloci]

I get the feeling that he'll be the least played out of the new characters upon console release, but the good news here is that our community is more active than that of the other characters so we'll be able to share tech and matchup knowledge more readily.

It'd be pretty cool to have some kind of Skype group or something when CP drops over here. Really get everyone involved and make match-making/training sessions a bit easier to organize.

Speaking of the community, I wonder how many of us on the Amane boards will be at NEC this year?

I know I'm going lol. Playing some BB casuals with my scrub Jin, wishing this was CP lol.

[Toasty]

Yeah that's probably a good idea. I know some of the other characters have them and they were quite helpful.

And I'll be watching NEC if that counts. It wasn't quite in my budget but I hear it's gonna be really big this year, so it should be mad fun.

[Bedsheets]

It's because Azrael and Bullet do not have someone living in Japan feeding the thread raw hype :3

Kidding, I think you guys would be super hyped up even without me. You guys get me hyped about Amane, nothing makes me want to run off to the arcade and play him like reading this thread. Speaking of which, looks like I have a lot of good Amane videos to catch up on.

[Aloci]

Yeah that's probably a good idea. I know some of the other characters have them and they were quite helpful.

And I'll be watching NEC if that counts. It wasn't quite in my budget but I hear it's gonna be really big this year, so it should be mad fun.

Keep an eye out for me in Marvel and SF even though I'll probably get bodied in pools lol.

No BB or P4A for me however; I'm way too far behind in those games.

It's because Azrael and Bullet do not have someone living in Japan feeding the thread raw hype :3

Thank you based Bedsheets <3

[Silmerion]

So, the anime palette is #13, the black-white-red one (no, the other one). And I got no clue at all about who it is.

Looks like Izuna from GG2: Overture.

And he got P3 protag as the Persona palette. Well that's surprising.

Because the P3 protagonist wasn't gender-specific (at least in Portable)?

[Starlight777]

I'm stuck deciding between palettes 10 through 13. You know a character has an amazing selection when even the zombie color looks good lol.

[Aloci]

Looks like Izuna from GG2: Overture.

I thought that was the GG Color for palette #11.

[Silmerion]

I thought that was the GG Color for palette #11.

Oh, so it is. :|

[BlackYakuzu94]

I thought the Litchi pallete was a Yukiko pallete for a second.

[Bedsheets]

This Amane player!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LZrPXJZyM0&list=UU1cefQMPUW2NSmtYdeYTKYw&index=3&feature=plcp

Yay! A video of an Amane player that plays like how I play Amane. It is nice to see my ideas about the character vindicated. This guy just has a lot better decision making then I do (when to block versus when not to block). But yes, this is the kind of drive heavy play I have been advocating, instead of C heavy play.

[Aloci]

Yay! A video of an Amane player that plays like how I play Amane. It is nice to see my ideas about the character vindicated. This guy just has a lot better decision making then I do (when to block versus when not to block). But yes, this is the kind of drive heavy play I have been advocating, instead of C heavy play.

With the amount of fabulous chip he does, I'd be using his drive as much as possible too.

It seems to be much more effective as well.

[DerQ]

I get the feeling that he'll be the least played out of the new characters upon console release, but the good news here is that our community is more active than that of the other characters so we'll be able to share tech and matchup knowledge more readily.

This thread is too active guys, I can't keep up with everything Not gonna quote all of you, but really, we're vocally active and hype for this and the enthusiasm is contagious. Thx for all of this guys. I'll make sure to give you inputs on the matchups I get to play in MTL, our scene is strong and we have a shared mentality that promotes the use of variety in character selection. So I'll get to play really good players (dat summer jam top 5) in a wide array of matchups.

Default color palette dabes, screw y'all for the record

And I'll be there at NEC. My second out-of-town major and first major in the states. I'm crazy hyped up for this besides for the fact that I can't legally drink over there yet

[744Dante]

Toasty,Derq,Solar,Star and Aloci you guys have some elegant Amane avatars I wish I had a good one so I don't feel left out

Thank you Bedsheets for the information you give us

[Bedsheets]

This is from a bit back but:

I really liked how aggressive the Amane was being vs Hakuman in that first video.

It almost feels like Amane is a rushdown character that just happens to rushdown from midscreen lol

I really agree with this assessment quite a lot!

Dante: No problem :3

Color wise I think I am going to have to stick with ganguro Amane. It is just too trolltastic.

[DerQ]

Toasty,Derq,Solar,Star and Aloci you guys have some elegant Amane avatars I wish I had a good one so I don't feel left out

Thank you Bedsheets for the information you give us

I mentionned earlier, give me an image to work with and an idea of something simple you'd like and I'd gladly whip out photoshop for it

Color wise I think I am going to have to stick with ganguro Amane. It is just too trolltastic.

Yes make your opponent boil with rage at this sight.

Btw, this was posted in the video thread. http://youtu.be/eYT7dj7oypE?t=28s I havn't even watched the full thing, but look how nasty that is. We discussed the practical uses of his j.B fatal counter? well there you go. Why is he looking more and more imba with everything going for him...

Edited November 27, 2012 by DerQ

[FatalCounter]

colors look great. I don't know the color I like and I don't want to think about, I will get anxious.

Do we have a good Amane combo video yet? I want to see some great stuff.

[Cryingvoid]

Hey guys, what about amane's defense? Is drill matsuri super a reversal? Is it solid plus? Can it be safely used on wakeup, or to get out of the pressure?

[Diveman]

can someone explain to me...what the hell is going on here???

[Bedsheets]

Hey guys, what about amane's defense? Is drill matsuri super a reversal? Is it solid plus? Can it be safely used on wakeup, or to get out of the pressure?

I would say that Amane's defense is his big weak point. It feels like he has a low amount of health (not sure if this is true or just how it feels). He has no DP type reversal.

Which DD is Drill Matsuri? The one where he summons a bunch of drills? It has no invulnerable frames, so it can't be used safely as a wake-up reversal. It comes out pretty quick but it will not beat a meaty.

His other drive, the dash attack, does have start up invulnerability and can be used on wakeup, however, it is not safe on block. It can be RCd of course to make it safe but that takes 100 meter, so not really practical.

As an Amane player you are going to have to get very good at weathering block strings, and finding the gaps that you can sneak in a 5a during, and knowing when you can do your CA. Especially if you want to start using his burst for OD. Being stuck in a corner as Amane is very bad news. If the enemy is in your face, all of your Cs will whiff, your 6b overhead will not cause you to jump back and make space, you can't fabhop backwards, there is no room to set up a ground drill, your Ds have too much start up to contest As up close, etc. You will need to be patient and smart.

If the enemy lets you air tech in the corner though you can just jump + fabhop out though, in my experience.

[LunarSelenia]

Looking at all the Amane vids posted, just make me realize that whenever I end up playing against him...I just gotta hope that drill doesn't chip my last health to death. I know its been posted before at the amount but it still amazes me >>;;

Its kind of like that last few bits of health you have against Mu and then a laser clips you to death. ._.;;

:X

*goes back to watching vids*

[Bedsheets]

Diveman: Yes, I can! (This is from memory, at work but, I believe I remember all the primary details).

So, first, Amane sets his drill heat level to 3, so he will have his most powerful drills, and then waits for his drill to cool down some so he will not overheat.

He does a low to the ground j.2B which causes the opponent to become airborne. He does a little air comboing followed by 6C to get the enemy into the corner. He does level 3 2D to get the enemy in the air and then does jumping level 3 6D, which wall bounces at level 3. Since both drills are level 3 they do a ton of damage. He then overdrives to make his drill distortion drive even stronger. He does his DD, and then RCs it. The drill super carries the enemy from one of the screen to the other. Amane, because he RCd, can now run/dash at the opponent to keep pushing the end of the screen further back, thus extending the DD for massive damage.

It is basically a very impressive training room combo. You will likely never see it in a real match, but, lots of neat things can be learned from it.

[WillWork4Instal]

I got dibs on the 10th color.

By the way, should we make a video complitation out of combos in the record of matches we've seen?