[CP] Bullet Gameplay Discussion

[Surf]

Not much Bullet players showing up much at all. The only one that is that's worth watching now is N-O. Everyone else is just subpar. Seems like all the new characters besides Azrael aren't really being played much any longer.

[SoWL]

I wouldn't really call the rest of the players subpar, some of them manage to show good results most of the time, even if they're not on N-O's level. But yeah, doesn't seem like she's as popular nowadays.

[Mr.Minionman]

Lots of Bullet's in the casuals pktazn posted; made a good showing ^.^

I think she's probably not picked as often because she doesn't offer much more that the other rushdown style characters already had. She doesn't really look bad, just not incredibly unique, so people are not as willing to switch mains.

Also this may have already been mentioned, but are 6D and 2D still punishable on block with higher heat levels?

[SoWL]

Yeah, her playstyle is one of the most common in the game, with Ragna, Makoto, and many others having many similar tools. Why would anyone learn a whole new character when they can just pick up good old Rags and do the same thing, except with ID?

I suppose that 6D and 2D become more safe, too, simply because you do need something in return for the Heat-Up loss. Anyways, the framedata should be out soon, so we'll know it for sure then.

[Mightfo]

Do you think that using this "drive cancel" in blockstrings would work? Something like stuff > D (cancel) > throw?

you totally can. ive seen bullets do it as a sort of feint before, i think at its fastest its about a 20f feint. i dont know if doing a throw after is viable, but im pretty sure you can use it to reset strings. sort of like staffless litchi(..prior to bbcp, sob) doing 623d[e] cancels, except bullet also has a threat of actually striking, making it more like a strike/strike mixup than a "reaction test".

[S.F.W]

So, any confirmed block strings? Also, any other options for oki besides j.C? The grabs don't look very enticing for it...

Edited March 20, 2013 by S.F.W

[Surf]

Well yoy can do other basic mixups instead of throw. Like fake j.C into 2B. And j.A instead of j.C into 720. Or late airdadh j.C, but that wont work if they roll out of the way. There are a couple more i took note of but ill edit my post with them when in home

[S.F.W]

Also, with the block strings, I was just wondering about that b/c some I see in the videos are either:

- 2A, 5B, 2B, 2C

- 2A, 5B, 2B, 6C

Is it possible to whiff the first hit of the 2C and performing some type of mixup or just flat out hit with the second hit of it? And after 6C i see people either try to use Lock - On and try to bait an attack for a CH or j.C. So, im guessing that could help people out alot with hit confirming since her general oki revolves around a (meaty?) j.C.

[Surf]

Well. I would answer you in more depth but, I haven't really played the game yet. But some blockstrings I had in my notes were

far 5B > 5C > dash 5B > 2B > dash 2A

2AA > 5B > 5C > charge 236A > dash 5C > 2A

I guess I only copied down two because I got the general idea of her normals and strings and didn't really bother to do more.

Im not sure what you mean by whiffing the first hit of 2C. Im pretty sure she can't feint it, and both hits are guaranteed to come out when you do it. At most, I'd say the only mixup you can really get out of it is 2C(1) > RC > 6A. Even if you hit them with the second hit only, you'd still have to Rapid cancel to continue with a combo.

[S.F.W]

Ok, thx. I was thinking along the lines that you purposely allow the first part of it to miss and catch the opponent because the first hit looked shorter and they tried to block high.

[LionDaKing]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYHuH1iKltY

I'm new to dustloop and BlazBlue (waiting for CP) but I thought this would be helpful. seems like no one is interested in her anymore...

Edited March 25, 2013 by LionDaKing

[SoWL]

It's just that we don't have the game on us, while the Japanese players are out of new tricks to show. We're doing what we can to keep the subforum alive (even with Prototype going AWOL again), but there's not much we can do.

[LionDaKing]

you mind if I request you on PSN? I don't have a computer so communication on here will be limited (using PS3 browser).

I really REALLY like Bullet and since I'm new to this game, I've been doing a lot of homework on her. The wait for BBCP is honestly frustrating, I've never been frustrated about a game before, but more so the character.

Edited March 25, 2013 by LionDaKing

[EXonestar]

I'm still surprised that people find her to be boring and not worth it to pick up.....She's amazing....imo.

I'll be happy to pick her up and will do. ;o hope to see all you bullet players when CP comes out ~

[Surf]

She may be one of those characters whose boring to watch but fun to play. I dont find her boring though. Cant wait to get my hands on her and Izayoi

[EXonestar]

Bullet is looking bloody sexy to me...I love everything about her so far , only thing I was abit iffy about was her broken back looking stance. But lets be realistic.....With them boobs......Life is hard. (But then again Litchi has that perfect balance~)

[Surf]

I got used to it. I dont think she'll be played too often once console comes. Maybe at first, but i dont see it in the long run

[SoWL]

I keep saying that Bullet is deeper than people might think, all because of her resource management mechanic. Do you go for the additional Heat-Up, hoping to get more damage on the next combo, or do you spend it right now to keep your damage output more constant? It's not the most obvious thing when you're watching the replays, but it does matter.

you mind if I request you on PSN? I don't have a computer so communication on here will be limited (using PS3 browser).

I don't communicate on my PS3 that often, but sure, go ahead. Just keep in mind that I'm easier to reach here.

[LionDaKing]

I'm using my phone now...what you guys and gals think of that video? same stuff you've seen before?

[EXonestar]

I got used to it. I dont think she'll be played too often once console comes. Maybe at first, but i dont see it in the long run

All I know is , When hat hits consoles - like everyone else. Going to live in training mode with her o_O experiments are waiting.... i particularly like her heat up system and her play style. I find her interesting and new. She isn't simply just another rush down character, i hear people saying things like we already have ragna/jin/tsubaki/noel bullet is generic or just another rush down default character etc etc.

People have that one track mind i guess

[LionDaKing]

All I know is , When hat hits consoles - like everyone else. Going to live in training mode with her o_O experiments are waiting.... i particularly like her heat up system and her play style. I find her interesting and new. She isn't simply just another rush down character, i hear people saying things like we already have ragna/jin/tsubaki/noel bullet is generic or just another rush down default character etc etc.

People have that one track mind i guess

yeah, im definitely going to be in the lab something fierce when she's available. you all have the advantage over me but i'll do it the Vegeta way and...pout my way up the leaderboards ¦3

[EXonestar]

Vegeta way

That Epic way of life!

[oricon]

Main reason people say Bullet is just another Makoto is simply because shes another rushdown unarmed character so to most people that instantly = Makoto outside of that her move set is way different.

[HumblePinecone]

How do you guys think you'll use heat-up? Spend it as you get it on lvl 1 combos, or try and go for the kill in 2-3 lvl 2 combos? I think I'm gonna start out just using it as I get it on lvl 1 combos, although that could change depending on how it feels/works out.

[LionDaKing]

when are you allowed to follow up on D? is it during HU2 or the Heat Up "3"?