[CP1.1] Makoto Nanaya's Gameplay Discussion - When's 2.0?

[swordsman09]

This keeps getting me too... There has to be a lot of people trying her out, and she hasn't even budged a bit on all lists I've seen. If Izayoi is really that bad, I feel sorry for this character! D:

She could have untapped potential, but she's been out for awhile now.

For me, the sad part is that she looked like a cool character. She could TELEPORT! But then again, so could Azrael kinda.

[Bibiquadium]

You guys somewhat make no sense. Up and down everyday with different arguments and such. Stick to the group chat or something.

[swordsman09]

You guys somewhat make no sense. Up and down everyday with different arguments and such. Stick to the group chat or something.

Makoto players are so weird. >.>

[Yazumatto]

You guys somewhat make no sense. Up and down everyday with different arguments and such. Stick to the group chat or something.

^ That. All of that.

[Teutonicknight]

Lol, sorry, I just want the game to come out already. :P

But we still have quite a while to go, sadly, and I want me some more Makoto.

...Is there anything else related to her gameplay that we have not covered?

[Yazumatto]

Since Jourdal is feeling nostalgic, I'm feeling nostalgic. It's time for some home movies (read: whatever old footage he uploaded that was attached to Tetsuwo's name) from CS2.

Tetsuwo (Jin) VS Satoshi (Makoto) <-omg there was a Makoto Blood Pain after this. Jourdal pls #biblethump

http://youtu.be/_c4l6qSfxMo

Tetsuwo (Jin) VS Goro (Makoto) <- 4646464646464646464646

http://youtu.be/AXjKCZrC2mk

Before anyone says anything, you're allowed to reminisce but shut up about changes. Just enjoy the old Lightning Arrow combos and fast orb oki.

Oh and for the giggles and shits: Tetsuwo (Jin) VS Goro (Lambchops)

http://youtu.be/AhQT4Vr5kao

[Eshi]

Bonus nostalgia: I want to find the CS1 combo video Goro made that showed off her broken-as-fuck comet cannon loops.

[Bibiquadium]

Hmm there's the one by Nini Heart I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0FKXTS22_4 stuff like that

[Yazumatto]

[Eshi]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12160141

complete lapse of memory, it absolutely wasn't goro but it might've been tsujikawa. I remember it being right after he won SBO, and he had an interest in makoto because she was broken.

[Teutonicknight]

Why don't they let Makoto keep the comet cannon combos? They wouldn't be broken if they didn't allow it more than one time per combo, and they look like fun.

[HiagoX]

remember when parry was stupid

[Eshi]

remember when parry was stupid

I remember arguing that it wasn't broken, lol. Those fond memories of being a scrub.

[Errol]

I remember arguing that it wasn't broken, lol. Those fond memories of being a scrub.

unfortunately they didn't find a happy medium and they've left it where it is.

[Teutonicknight]

The parry is a little too weak still, they could give the move some degree of usefulness. But yeah, it was pretty damn broken back then, lol

It hasn't changed in CP at all, has it?

[HiagoX]

Still the same as EX in CP.

I think parry is ok and in a good place right now, actually. lol

[Teutonicknight]

Compared to what it used to be? yeah, lol. Not broke as hell at least. xD

[swordsman09]

I liked it the way it was...

[Teutonicknight]

In wouldn't really want it back to that amount of broken, but just a bit more useful would be nice. Although admittedly, those parry shenanigans were a ton of fun while they lasted.

[Errol]

Still the same as EX in CP.

I think parry is ok and in a good place right now, actually. lol

well, It's better in CP I guess. Relatively, that is. Because DP RCs don't get the reward they used to. It still stands in like jayoku class of damage.

I don't think it is good enough in EX. But CP it might be ok. though it still doesn't see much use.

[Teutonicknight]

That's somewhat good to hear.

"Lord Panty Arm" made my day, btw, lol

[Bibiquadium]

Parry is just fine, it makes people have tp worry about it, but if abused it ain't as good. I just wish it was more useful against projectiles.

[Errol]

The frame data is ok by me I guess, but the way it catches is not. the range is about a jab of range. makes it really sketchy. it does nothing to prevent them from doing followups. if you cancel into the attack too early you'll just get by a gatling, if you don't cancel they need to be really right next to you. It's too annoying to me.

That's somewhat good to hear.

"Lord Panty Arm" made my day, btw, lol

All thanks to Moy and Chao.

[Teutonicknight]

Make it catch long-poking attacks, and it would be fine. If the weapon is in the guy's fricken hand, that crap should be knocked out of the way. But nope, the opponent gets the reward for your hard work. >.>

An alternative command during parry that would deflect against projectiles would be nice, but idk how they would pull it off.

[Dark Ranger88]

Make it catch long-poking attacks, and it would be fine. If the weapon is in the guy's fricken hand, that crap should be knocked out of the way. But nope, the opponent gets the reward for your hard work. >.>

This is almost the most annoying thing ever. How can it not catch Tager's 5A after Gadget Finger??? I should be getting 5k+ instead of a 2B to the shins.

An alternative command during parry that would deflect against projectiles would be nice, but idk how they would pull it off.

Successful parry against a projectile - Press D to do the punch or press A to send it back.

Although being able to reflect projectiles would probably make Makoto broken again. Zoners wouldn't be able to touch us.

I'd love to see how this would look against Dead Spike.