LionHeartx Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 well I dont mean relating them to BB characters specifically I mean just seeing an oddball character in general and comparing them to whatever "bad" FG character designs were out at the time.
LaziestNameEver Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Assuming my google-fu is correct, Zappa originated in XX, which released in 2002. Calamity Trigger wasn't in arcades until 6 years later in 2008. He probably meant "Did people bitch about Zappa, too?"
SolxBaiken Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I think he was more referring to underwhelming initial impressions based on the design, which to be fair, Zappa doesn't seem nearly as bat shit until you see his sprite...and then him, in motion.
Agni Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I think he was more referring to underwhelming initial impressions based on the design, which to be fair, Zappa doesn't seem nearly as bat shit until you see his sprite...and then him, in motion. Odd...can't GG have some characters that look like...kinda-normal humans? Not everyone has to be crazy wacky-nuts. Then again, Zappa...he does not exactly look like a normal human in motion.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Odd...can't GG have some characters that look like...kinda-normal humans? Ky Axl
SolxBaiken Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Odd...can't GG have some characters that look like...kinda-normal humans? Not everyone has to be crazy wacky-nuts. I'm not saying everyone needs to look visually bizarre, just generalizing the situation, I feel fine with all Guilty Gear designs except Dr. Paradigm [but that's because I think everything surrounding him is just...awful] and Crow [because, fuk Crow] #putleopaldoninxrd2k14
Kyosuke Kagami Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 But the Doc is cool >: He'd be kinda hard to place in a fighting game though
Luminos564 Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Eh, I've actually always been very fond of Zappa. Must be because I fuckin' LOVE horror movies and him playing like one in motion sits right at home with me. But I was always creeped out by Faust. I'm not joking. I am not fond of quirky, borderline insane doctors with extremely sharp objects. And then you find out he can teleport right into your room with a mere thought and I just gave myself nightmares again . Bedman's design is fine. I am not in love with it (why does he only have 3 fingers on the bed's left arm?) but I don't find it bad either. Oh and to answer someone's question: GG has plenty of normal-looking humans. Off the top of my head: -Johnny. -Jam. -Bridget. -Chipp. -Ky. -Anji. -May and arguably, most of the Jellyfish Lady Gang. -Millia (demonic hair notwithstanding).
TheRealBobMan Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) But the Doc is cool >: He'd be kinda hard to place in a fighting game though I'm sorry, I find it hilarious that we can say things like this within a day of finding out that Xrd has a dude nailed to a bed as a playable character. Laughing even harder now that I'm remembering Wii Fit trainer is playable in Smash4. And then there's stuff like this video. *Edit* I didn't mean to sound like a jerk if I did. This series has Zappa, and this game has Faust and Bedman. If they want to put in Paradigm they'll figure it out with little trouble. I only ask that they also include Izuna since he seemed sort of cool too. Edited November 29, 2013 by TheRealBobMan
XXXDC Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I feel fine with all Guilty Gear designs except Dr. Paradigm [but that's because I think everything surrounding him is just...awful] #putleopaldoninxrd2k14 Pretty much this, he and Sin are the only characters i can't stand
Circuitous Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 So... I'm all for opinions. If you don't like Bedman's design, that's totally cool. I'm not a fan of it or anything - I think it's okay, a bit weird, but whatever. Thing is... if you've got an opinion on something, that's fine. But if you present it like a total asshole, you're just looking to start an argument. I don't really like arguments over opinions in this thread - they're not going to accomplish anything and I have to wade through a few pages of pointlessness to get back to relevant stuff. So basically what I'm getting at is don't say shit like this: Ugh, Bedman's design is awful. I guess Xrd is in the atrocious level of Blazblue's character design now. Please don't fuck up Jam. 'Cuz all that's gonna do is get people pumped to argue. If that's really the best way you can state your opinion, I'd really rather you just kept it to yourself. I hope you guys get what I'm saying here.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I don't get why people don't like Sol/Order Sol as normal looking characters. Besides the fac that they wear those gear suppressors on their heads and turn into anthropomorphic flaming bipedal dragons from time to time, they are pretty normal looking guys.
LeonD Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 So... I'm all for opinions. If you don't like Bedman's design, that's totally cool. I'm not a fan of it or anything - I think it's okay, a bit weird, but whatever. Thing is... if you've got an opinion on something, that's fine. But if you present it like a total asshole, you're just looking to start an argument. I don't really like arguments over opinions in this thread - they're not going to accomplish anything and I have to wade through a few pages of pointlessness to get back to relevant stuff. So basically what I'm getting at is don't say shit like this: 'Cuz all that's gonna do is get people pumped to argue. If that's really the best way you can state your opinion, I'd really rather you just kept it to yourself. I hope you guys get what I'm saying here. THIS!!!! GODDAMN IT!!!!! The peeps around me just keep on saying that "Bedman's so BB-ish, designs look fucked up...."...... REALLY PISSIN' ME OFF, man!
Suzaku Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Hard rock soundtrack paired with outrageous anime character designs is sort of the point of Guilty Gear as a series. It's on the back of the box. If you want normal looking characters, go play Virtua Fighter.
Eternal Blaze Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Hard rock soundtrack paired with outrageous anime character designs is sort of the point of Guilty Gear as a series. It's on the back of the box. If you want normal looking characters, go play Virtua Fighter. Normal doesnt necessarily mean plain -__- I'll take crazy or unorthodox designs over the shit in VF.. I like most of the GG designs, Venom, Sol and Eddie are my favorites eventhough I dont play any of them. Bedman is pretty neat, looks like his gameplay could be interesting and quite unique, I just dont like the name. its just.. lazy. Ohhh a dude on a bed, call him bedman. Just sounds like one of lil Wayne's rhymes.
balofo Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 WE DEMAND A NEW PV!! this poor marketing pisses me off...
Circuitous Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Hard rock soundtrack paired with outrageous anime character designs is sort of the point of Guilty Gear as a series. It's on the back of the box. If you want normal looking characters, go play Virtua Fighter. Normal doesnt necessarily mean plain -__- I'll take crazy or unorthodox designs over the shit in VF.. I like most of the GG designs, Venom, Sol and Eddie are my favorites eventhough I dont play any of them. Bedman is pretty neat, looks like his gameplay could be interesting and quite unique, I just dont like the name. its just.. lazy. Ohhh a dude on a bed, call him bedman. Just sounds like one of lil Wayne's rhymes. What was I just saying like a page ago? Quit with this.
LionHeartx Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I don't get why people don't like Sol/Order Sol as normal looking characters. Besides the fac that they wear those gear suppressors on their heads and turn into anthropomorphic flaming bipedal dragons from time to time, they are pretty normal looking guys. The ponytail man. It's just too neat and kempt.
HeWhoRocksAlot Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 I've been wondering what that Sol's animation was on the second Xrd trailer around 0:44. I thought it might had been a new Overdrive but I didn't see it on the previous location test, so I'm going with the speculation that it may be his Instant Kill in the 3rd location test.
shinr Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Since 3D = more opportunity to show off, I think something simple like Napalm Death is unlikely, that may be a more cinematic All Guns Blazing, OS's Raging Rave or something new entirely. In the same vein, Ky may swap Rising Force for Zwei Voltage.
Suzaku Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 Here's Bedman's translated profile and movelist: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?16461-Xrd-News-Thread/page3&p=1574720&viewfull=1#post1574720 As for his name, keep in mind that English words sound more exotic to Japanese people than they do to native English speakers. Likewise, many Japanese words which sound exotic to English speakers sound mundane to Japanese speakers. Sometimes the intent is lost in translation.
Vulcan422 Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) Endowed with tremendous combat power, he displays this aptitude in battle by luring opponents into nightmares of his own creation. Oh God, it's Death 13 all over again. I can already hear the carnival music from the Capcom game. Edited November 29, 2013 by Vulcan422
BladeOfJustice7 Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 The ponytail man. It's just too neat and kempt. Makes sense, I thought the same thing. I've been wondering what that Sol's animation was on the second Xrd trailer around 0:44. I thought it might had been a new Overdrive but I didn't see it on the previous location test, so I'm going with the speculation that it may be his Instant Kill in the 3rd location test. http://25.media.tumblr.com/254eed5ffbcf5cf76a55537bd6c57da8/tumblr_msvlexUUv31r0l45no7_r1_250.gif I've been thinking the same thing. Especially since, BB Astrals always lead into separate cutscenes once they are activated where they change the background and at times destroy the stage after doing their Astral. So, if GG were to take from that, it would go to a whole new extent, or it could be part of the GGXrd intro once it drops. Since 3D = more opportunity to show off, I think something simple like Napalm Death is unlikely, that may be a more cinematic All Guns Blazing, OS's Raging Rave or something new entirely. In the same vein, Ky may swap Rising Force for Zwei Voltage. I would LOVE to see Zwei Voltage back, or anything new, except not Rising Force again. Most of GGs IK's were lame anyways, the GG1 IK's were, for the most part dope, I don't know why Daisuke/ArcSys dropped the original IK's of Sol and Ky in GGX and onwards... As for his name, keep in mind that English words sound more exotic to Japanese people than they do to native English speakers. Likewise, many Japanese words which sound exotic to English speakers sound mundane to Japanese speakers. Sometimes the intent is lost in translation. That's ironic but not very surprising at the same time.
Akujikan Posted November 29, 2013 Posted November 29, 2013 "A boy who has slept through the heinous remodeling of his rollaway bed." is the most simple and hilarious way to have phrased that! I love it. His design certainly is different. My interest in him is almost entirely based on how his playstyle ends up looking at the loketest. Given his ability to hover and the ability to use all of his specials and follow-ups in the air, he might end up being very cool.
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