shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Well it confirms ziodyne is a special move.....YAY CHEAPNESS Ziodyne doesn't look too cheap to me. Looks like it has lots of startup and it can probably be low profiled due to its being thinner. Wouldn't be surprised if its damage was lower as well.
shtkn Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 did elizabeth's ziodyne make her cheap? i really hope people start thinking rationally instead of blindly going HYPEHYPEHYPE ADACHI LOOKS OP Kairos, Strife and Poultrygeist 3
shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Thinking? On the Internet? You must be mistaken. Anyway, it almost looks like his IK will be practical, as it goes off really quickly after the flash and tracks the opponent.
Ourozama Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 EDIT: Vorpal Blade super at the end. And did Izanagi hit Yu at the end there? I thought so too but Yu's persona card got broken by Magatsu Izanagi so it seems unlikely.
shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Looks to me like it's a delayed strike from Magatsu Izanagi (needs a short name. Maggy?). Wonder if it tracks as well.
HoudiniJr100 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 did elizabeth's ziodyne make her cheap? i really hope people start thinking rationally instead of blindly going HYPEHYPEHYPE ADACHI LOOKS OP It was just a joke really. Though I admit I thought it'd be Yu's and Liz's combined
RifleAvenger Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Also, no Shadow bit at the end of the trailer suggests to me that the picture showing Shadow Adachi previously in this thread was faked (I thought it looked shopped, the edges of the square looked really rough).
heavymetalmixer Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Also, no Shadow bit at the end of the trailer suggests to me that the picture showing Shadow Adachi previously in this thread was faked (I thought it looked shopped, the edges of the square looked really rough). Minazuke considers Adachi a "useless man", so maybe there's no Shadow Adachi because is "worthless".
Skoogabear Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I thought so too but Yu's persona card got broken by Magatsu Izanagi so it seems unlikely. Looking over it again it does seem that Izanagi is actually hitting Yu, then disappears because he hit him. I took a few stills of it here http://imgur.com/a/pAvDn
Number 13 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 In the rpg he didn't really have a traditional shadow form in a sense. It wasn't a separate entity it's more like he directly harnessed the power(he never denied himself, but ironically embraced it) and he still could utilize a persona. He was a sort of a hybrid (explains why shadows leave him alone) if I had to best describe it. Probably the reason why Adachi doesn't have a shadow mode because plot reasons like Liz, The Sho duo, and OG S.Lab.
heavymetalmixer Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 In the rpg he didn't really have a traditional shadow form in a sense. It wasn't a separate entity (he never denied himself, but ironically embraced it) and he still could utilized a persona. He was a sort of a hybrid if I had to best describe it. Probably the reason why Adachi doesn't have a shadow mode because plot reasons like Liz, The Sho duo, and OG S.Lab. In P4 Adachi became in what Minazuki wants everyone to become: A human becoming shadow, because being swallowed by their darkness, but after being defeated he returned to be normal.
Tong Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Looking over it again it does seem that Izanagi is actually hitting Yu, then disappears because he hit him. I took a few stills of it here http://imgur.com/a/pAvDn The projectile dissappears when Yu gets hit by Magatsu Izanagi (or maybe Vorpal Blade also nullifies the Zio), and not because Zio is hitting Yu.
Torri- Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I can't stop watching the Adachi trailer. Quite pleased with how the development team is handling his character in game. I especially love Magatsu's rising claw move, ala KOF 12-13 flameless Iori.
shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Looking over it again it does seem that Izanagi is actually hitting Yu, then disappears because he hit him. I took a few stills of it here http://imgur.com/a/pAvDn He doesn't have the blue electric effect that Zio causes on hit. It ain't Zio that's hitting Yu.
Skoogabear Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 The projectile dissappears when Yu gets hit by Magatsu Izanagi (or maybe Vorpal Blade also nullifies the Zio), and not because Zio is hitting Yu. This is really the only reason I figured it was hitting him. Because usually if a projectile is already out it continues going, not stopping at the user. Unless it was an overlapping it. Probably just wishful thinking :P
shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Just checked in P4A, and Zio does disappear if Yu is hit. Not sure if it also applies to Ultimax, but I think it would be reasonable to assume so.
Narroo Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 did elizabeth's ziodyne make her cheap? i really hope people start thinking rationally instead of blindly going HYPEHYPEHYPE ADACHI LOOKS OP Nope. But people keep forgetting about her. Also, she's not based off Yu.
HoudiniJr100 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 Nope. But people keep forgetting about her. Also, she's not based off Yu. I was thinking Adchi's is visually similar but has either liz's properties, or something else entirely. Yes coming from the guy who made it sound like it'd be cheap I want to say that it could probably be the case of it being like Liz's but with a fresh coat of Yu Narukami's paint in red colors. There, now I laid it to rest.
Kairos Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 did elizabeth's ziodyne make her cheap? I play Kanji so yes But nah there was start up for days on his Ziodyne.Plenty of time to react and damage persona. Maybe a decent oki tool if spaced right and he looks like he can move around after the Zodyne is fired but far from cheap.
HoudiniJr100 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I play Kanji so yes But nah there was start up for days on his Ziodyne.Plenty of time to react and damage persona. Maybe a decent oki tool if spaced right and he looks like he can move around after the Zodyne is fired but far from cheap. considering he can't do other persona attacks I can see why, it makes sense too. People are not gonna let my cheapness comment go aren't they?
shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 That throw he does on Teddie has strangely low damage for a counterhit throw. Maybe it has other properties they haven't shown off yet? RWA Announcer 1
HoudiniJr100 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 That throw he does on Teddie has strangely low damage for a counterhit throw. Maybe it has other properties they haven't shown off yet? What I wanna know is if you can combo off of it from a one-more cancel or burst. It'd be nice seeing the possibilities
shoryusatsu999 Posted June 19, 2014 Posted June 19, 2014 I don't see why he couldn't. If that's his normal throw and not any kind of command throw, he should be able to combo afterward with OMC or OMB.
MegaGrandTale Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 I'm pretty sure there's going to be another attack after Adachi laughs, cause the trailer cuts off while he's still laughing
Poultrygeist Posted June 20, 2014 Posted June 20, 2014 did elizabeth's ziodyne make her cheap? i really hope people start thinking rationally instead of blindly going HYPEHYPEHYPE ADACHI LOOKS OP Welcome to every time a fan favorite character becomes playable. Who would have thought that a character would perform well in a promotional trailer designed to make them look good? Anyway I agree with the trailer being pretty bad, I can't discern what the fuck his playstyle is even supposed to be from that. I guess that move where MI drops down is a delayed overhead and you're supposed to put them in a blockstring so that it hits them or something. EDIT: So after watching his trailer again I think I've got the gist of a couple of his moves. 1:02 is the fourth hit of his auto combo, meaning that it is some sort of dashing strike move. 1:04 is a lunging kick thing like Naoto's special, causes fatal counter where it wall bounces/sticks, cuts away too fast to tell. 1:06 is his version of Ziodyne. It might be air unblockable as you see what appears to be a reset where he uses it to end his AOA air combo, causing his opponent to tech and get hit by it. Or maybe they just don't block it. That would be dumb. 1:07 is some kind of move where MI falls down like the second half of Cross Slash. The fast startup makes me think it's his 2D but I'm not sure about that. Hitstun is long enough for Adachi to follow up. 1:08 could be either his 5B or the "regular" version of 1:04. It puts him in an air state. 1:09 is probably an air special. I don't think it's j.5C cause you can see MI drag Yukiko away. 1:10 looks like a grab, either his normal throw or a command grab. Teddie is going into his "grabbed" animation and not the animation he goes into from normal hitstun. 1:11 is his IK obviously. Seems to function like Jedah's ES move from Vampire Savior. 1:14 seems to be a tracking super with lengthy startup.
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