ApertureBlack Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Oh sorry, I was trying K Mappa RC CWH, and then just raw CWH, I guess I'm just trying to optimize damage off Mappa RC though, so I don't know how much I can really do with those combos off something like 5K K Mappa RC. edit: oh and regarding the launcher after CWH, I was doing 5K, or just c.S I dont know if you know, but 5.K scales really hard and some combos drop due to that. Regardless Sols timing on the airloop is tedious compared to most characters and the launchers to use for him are unorthodox. This video that I quickly made shows the stuff that I am talking about, hope it helps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGFBFddo08 (You can also delay the 2.K if the J.P-J.D isnt connecting)
dwajio Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 I dont know if you know, but 5.K scales really hard and some combos drop due to that. Regardless Sols timing on the airloop is tedious compared to most characters and the launchers to use for him are unorthodox. This video that I quickly made shows the stuff that I am talking about, hope it helps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaGFBFddo08 (You can also delay the 2.K if the J.P-J.D isnt connecting) You're the best man, I just saw you doing some 5K launchers on the original video so I just applied it to Sol without thinking. I really hope you make a series for each specific character like this video, I'll be studying it like the bible!
ApertureBlack Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 You're the best man, I just saw you doing some 5K launchers on the original video so I just applied it to Sol without thinking. I really hope you make a series for each specific character like this video, I'll be studying it like the bible! I know that in the vid that I did showcasing combos on Multiple character sizes covered nearly everything....Damn I didnt even realize that I forgot to put Sol in that one lol. I dont know how I remember to do Faust and then not Sol Meh, if you want any more I can do them on request, but generally some of the ones from the previous vid will transfer well minus oddballs like Sol.
ApertureBlack Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Did you transcribe the combos in those videos? No, but I can if needed. Ima lazy.
tortoos Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Could you? I was going to look at it later on but since you took it down, I can't now. Would appreciate it. I need to know some of that stuff since I fight a bedman. Ah nevermind, didn't see you updated the video. Thanks.
ApertureBlack Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Could you? I was going to look at it later on but since you took it down, I can't now. Would appreciate it. I need to know some of that stuff since I fight a bedman. Ah nevermind, didn't see you updated the video. Thanks. Sure, Ill just do the basic ones mainly... Edit: On Bedman CH 6HS,214KK,K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.2K,J.P,J.D = 202 DAMAGE 5H,2H,5S,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.2K,J.P,J.D = 220 DAMAGE 214PP,5H,2H,5S,J.S,J.K,J.D,J.2K,J.S,J.K,JK,J.D = 251 DAMAGE Is that good enough?
dwajio Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I know that in the vid that I did showcasing combos on Multiple character sizes covered nearly everything....Damn I didnt even realize that I forgot to put Sol in that one lol. I dont know how I remember to do Faust and then not Sol Meh, if you want any more I can do them on request, but generally some of the ones from the previous vid will transfer well minus oddballs like Sol. Aperture man! I saw your newest uploads, and I got the sol loop down on all conversion! Thank you so much!
ApertureBlack Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Aperture man! I saw your newest uploads, and I got the sol loop down on all conversion! Thank you so much! No problem, any other questions that maybe I can help with?
fogelstrom Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Sure, Ill just do the basic ones mainly... Edit: On Bedman CH 6HS,214KK,K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.2K,J.P,J.D = 202 DAMAGE 5H,2H,5S,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.2K,J.P,J.D = 220 DAMAGE 214PP,5H,2H,5S,J.S,J.K,J.D,J.2K,J.S,J.K,JK,J.D = 251 DAMAGE Is that good enough? Not to be mean but that notation hurts my eyes ^^;
ApertureBlack Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Not to be mean but that notation hurts my eyes ^^; How would you recommend it? Its not something I normally do.
Angry Guy of DE Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I think some people use ">" in between moves to provide spacing so its easier to read. Like for instance: 6HS > 214KK > 5K > j.S > j.H > etc. It just makes it a little easier to read with more spacing than just a comma.
fogelstrom Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 6HS > 214KK > 5K > j.S > j.H > etc. This is a bit better but I always go for minimalized stuff. 6HS,214KK,K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.K,J.S,J.H,J.D,J.2K,J.P,J.D = 202 DAMAGE 6HS, 214K-K, 5K, j.SHD, dj.KSHD2K, j.PD It's not really a big deal since I could obivously translate your combo but small things such as double jump was missing so it might be weird for people to know where to double jump (if they are new and can't visually see).
tortoos Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Well I mean,. everyones going to disagree on notation because people like it a certain way, I like the > because it clearly seperates the moves, so for instance i would write: 6HS > 214kk > 5K > J.S J.H J.D (jc) J.K J.S J.H J.D J.2K J.P J.D leaving out the > because those are air chains. That's just me. Also i'd like to point out Aperture as you're probably aware, you can use 5s instead of 5k post CWH to juggle fat people like bedman and get exactly the same damage with what appears to me to be more consistency. I drop it a lot using 5k at the jump cancel jd and almost never if i started the juggle with 5s.
ApertureBlack Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Thanks for the notation help, I do agree that those methods look neater. Well I mean,. everyones going to disagree on notation because people like it a certain way, I like the > because it clearly seperates the moves, so for instance i would write: 6HS > 214kk > 5K > J.S J.H J.D (jc) J.K J.S J.H J.D J.2K J.P J.D leaving out the > because those are air chains. That's just me. Also i'd like to point out Aperture as you're probably aware, you can use 5s instead of 5k post CWH to juggle fat people like bedman and get exactly the same damage with what appears to me to be more consistency. I drop it a lot using 5k at the jump cancel jd and almost never if i started the juggle with 5s. Honestly the only person that Im forced to use 5S on is Pot.
tortoos Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 I dunno, it's just an alternative. It seems to work more consistently for me using 5S, and the only people im going to be doing those combos on are fat characters anyway.
LearningToPlay Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 Well thanks then. Regardless all this brainstorming that I did in the last video about airloops on different characters made me want to squeeze as much as I could out of those loops and get them off random hit confirms. So then I made another vid showcasing most of the ways you can get the "airloop" or whatever in a combo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ0Ix9qpwDk Btw Slayers of Dustloop, what is the name that everyone has given the little airloop thing that Slayer has? I dont want to call it the rest cause it isnt similar to his past ones and I cant think of anything creative involving Footloose Journey, any ideas? I just want to say, some of your recent videos, this one included, have absolutely turned around my game. I had been lazy about learning proper combos since I picked up GG last December, but your videos inspired me. I have sore hands from training mode from the last few days, and it has paid off! I was able to take a few matches off of a really tough friend recently. Thank you, really! And I can't help it, now I think "Slayercoaster" when I see some of those combos. Good stuff. ^_^
dwajio Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 No problem, any other questions that maybe I can help with? Here's something you can help me with, I've been trying to do the rejump combos but from the far left side of the stage moving forward and Ive noticed that if Im not doing the combos from the middle to corner of the screen, the last jP -> jD will sometimes whiff because I'm not near the corner's wall. Am I doing something wrong or do you have a different ender for when you're still midscreen?
ApertureBlack Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Here's something you can help me with, I've been trying to do the rejump combos but from the far left side of the stage moving forward and Ive noticed that if Im not doing the combos from the middle to corner of the screen, the last jP -> jD will sometimes whiff because I'm not near the corner's wall. Am I doing something wrong or do you have a different ender for when you're still midscreen? It somewhat depends on the character for me. Occasionally I will just not try to link J.K after J.D and instead opt for a J.P < J.S instead. May I ask the characters that you are having this issue with?
daymendou Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Taka is tweeting under #Vupスレイヤー CH DOT doesn't wallstick, what is this
SuperJ Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 2H is -9. prolly deserved. it still reaches the opponent at round start range, and untech is also increased enough that you can RC 2H and ignore RC scaling. also a very slight horizontal range increase on 2D. specifically mentions SS SS 2K-2D working on crouching ino, where it didn't previously (this happened to me in tournament X( ).
Malice Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Were there changes to 6k recovery? I saw something stating that it was reduced from 7 to 5 which would make it 0 on block, and potentially combo reliably on meaty.(Or hopefully crouching Faust, haha.)
ApertureBlack Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Taka is tweeting under #Vupスレイヤー CH DOT doesn't wallstick, what is this Wut.....Well what is the point of it now besides random reversal? Unless it has crazy amounts of hitstop it will once again worthless besides psuedo DP. It better get wall something.
Malice Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 It has to.....ugh. I'll just RC footloose after and go die in a corner. Haha.
Malice Posted March 5, 2015 Posted March 5, 2015 Aperture, I don't think I've ever had fisticuffs with you, sir. I invoke fisticuffs!
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