[CP] Ragna Gameplay Discussion

[SolheartStud]

He could be gaining more health back since chip damage was buffed. More chip damage equals more health back no?

[KV998]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMA34unC7c&list=PLk9-UZAzLSPoeH3DYFmREzUddPp62NnTY&index=16&feature=plpp_video

at 15:25, Ragna does some sort of clawing attack with the arm of the black beast. Im not sure if this was already found out but this is the first time ive seen this done... ever. And seeing how it was canceled out of a grab its probably a special move or could just be canceled out of it. It seems like a setup for not over yet. Does anyone have any knowledge on this?

[TITANIUM BEAST!!!]

That's his Crush Trigger.

[KV998]

what exactly is it?

[YoYoCheese]

what exactly is it?

It's a new universal move that costs 25 heat and has to be barrier blocked. I believe any normal can be cancelled into it.

[KV998]

ahhhh i was wondering why theres 4 bars now

[heavymetalmixer]

With 1000 of minimum damage and 100 of P2, the Crush trigger will be very usefull for adding good proration like Hazama with Hotenjin, or to finish the combo with good damage.

Edited November 24, 2012 by heavymetalmixer

[WolfCrimson]

I wanna know if it's possible to continue a combo after a standing hit CS(1) (eg. 5B>5C> CS(1)>5B etc). Since the first hit now staggers, is it possible to hold D and then continue the combo afterwards?

Edited November 24, 2012 by WolfCrimson

[Tong]

It could be useful if the first part only used 25 Heat... 50 heat doesn't seem worth if you can 2D instead.

Unless the stagger is good enough to allow interesting followups.

[Godlike Assault]

Blood Scythe will be awesome in lag

[Tong]

Looks like nothing useful works after Hell's Fang RC... not even 6C.

RIP free midscreen damage off any confirm. Hope that works *at least* on crouching.

And Bloodscythe doesn't look that free to abuse.

Edit: Yes it does work, sorry about that

Yutta got it right, the other guy was just too slow.

Edited November 25, 2012 by Tong

[KayEff]

6C does work after HF RC

[Elochai]

This is probably buried somewhere here, but I thought I'd ask anyway.

Bloodscythe seems safe on block if spaced properly; is this true, or are my eyes deceiving me?

[KayEff]

blood scythe is safe on block, and you don't even need to space it properly. it has a remarkably fast recovery.

[ADS627]

yeah its safe on block. though it is slow so you probably knock him out of it.

[floatwater]

praise allah! sadly it's so telegraphed people can DP out of it. maybe even air grab. hmmmm

[Elochai]

Hm, I wonder if it's slower than gauntlet hades (it probably is, at least it seems so). I recall getting 5A'd out of GH a lot, same case probably applies here.

[WolfCrimson]

For some reason I see BloodScythe having Riot Stamp's potential, i.e. it's an evade and counter move that punishes the opponent heavily. But like riot stamp, it needs to be done as yomi during footsies.

[KayEff]

the aerial version is probably just as fast as GH, the ground version probably being 15 or more frames or so than GH.

[floatwater]

what i've seen of Blood Scythe is that when people do use it it crosses up. maybe you could BS RC > shenanigans

[KayEff]

BS > RC 44 > j.623D > RC stuff

now we're getting into some marvel tier stuff

[Final Ultima]

If only, if it was Marvel we'd get it all for free.

[Tong]

^

Hell's Fang untechable is pretty nice now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0VfQBhZuYIU#t=188s

[xlolxlolx]

hoho the impossible combo ideas i had for cs2 might work in cp

[Tong]

Considering how "butchered" his strings and cancels got, you've got some really innovative ideas :o