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By request, a bunch of matches where Bera's Slayer completely trashes me. Any advice would be appreciated. :)

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Damn blitz, didn't know you partook in the herbal life. We gotta smoke up and play sometime :) haven't met you in person yet, but since pulsr's gatherings are on hold who knows where the next casual will be...

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By request, a bunch of matches where Bera's Slayer completely trashes me.

Any advice would be appreciated. :)

Ok, so I watched them all, and I must admit that this Slayer is good !

I Think you're not used to "real" Slayers, that's why you're in hudge difficulty !

A "real" Slayer in #reload uses BDC (back dash cancel) A LOT. In fact, it allows Slayer to attack while being TOTALLY invincible, thanks to the back dash propriety (hence the name)

Thus the n°1 rule is to watch out not to let any momentum if you connect a hit. BDC requires to be standing, so hitting with lows will prevent him from spaming in his guard.

Moves he can BDC :

- Jumps and air-throws

- His special throw (the bite loop ^^)

- Mappa punch (the P is totally invincible, while the K version is vulnerable at the end)

- Dandy step (same with P and K as above)

- Taunts (now that's funny ^^)

The most terrible are the 2 first. He can evade easily from any gaps and even counter !

Now that's general advice, up to you now ^^

1) Learn to un-stagger ! I don't know with what controller you're playing, but mash your directions to escape from his bites ! If it's a stick, MOVE IT. If it's a pad, use YOUR 2 THUMBS ! If you take more than 5 bites in #reload, you suck ^^

2) Learn to FRC your Tatami, j.D and gun flames to do it constantly. It'll help a lot for combo AND pressure on him.

3) If you're not going for okizeme with a projectile first (tatami, gun flame, whatever) DON'T go for okizeme. If you watch your vids again, you'll see most of the time you got BDC Bite !

4) If you want to get closer, try to do short dashes with FD break. If he triggers a BDC move and misses, counter ! Otherwise, throw a projectile, and follow directly (spam Tatami and FRC EVERY gun flame or you'll get pile bunker !)

5) Learn to 1 frame jump out of his pressure ! Jump and immediately FD in the air. That's the trick to avoid bite loops or most okizeme cross-ups. Remember to keep your FD ON if he uses anti air moves.

6) Finally, not very important, but learn to keep your burst. That Slayer knows when you'll burst and will bait it most of the time. In that case, prevent yourself from bursting and try to use the gap he made to escape ! Learning to conserve your burst is an important strategie you should always be aware of !

All right, I guess that's all. Hope it'll hlep you beat him, at least once ^^ Remember to be patient. If you see you're losing your temper, have a break, have a kit-kat ^^

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By request, a bunch of matches where Bera's Slayer completely trashes me.

Any advice would be appreciated. :)

Welcome to the club. I'll have a look see, though I probably won't be able to help much because I'm in the boat with you.

If you take more than 5 bites in #reload, you suck ^^

I guess that means I'm scrub bait too, along with every Japanese player who has ever been caught in a BDC bite loop :(
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er... that's a stretch. granted, if they aren't doing 6632147H to cancel the forward dash into the bite, you can easily mash out.

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[Monotonously] I can't believe I didn't catch that joke at first :vbang: Orrax: I watched your Baiken matches. It seemed like you were somewhat intimidated or something, because there were some dustloop opportunities that you missed. For example, there were times in the matches where you got him with a 2D in the corner, but you didn't cancel into tatami. I think you should add Baiken's tatami, frc iad, j.d dustloop setups to your arsenal, for when you're slightly too far out to hit the conventional dustloop. Also, I wouldn't even bother with okizeme (because of BDC anything) unless you're coming down on him with a mat right before his wakeup, because then if he does BDC mappa, you'll be on the ground to block it. If he just blocks it, you can continue on with pressure. I like to start most of my pressure strings with 5p. From 5p, you can either go low with 2k, or high with tk yzn, so it's 50/50. I must say though, you're good with the anchor counter. I don't have the hand speed to net a counterhit with it. End of randomness

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From 5p, you can either go low with 2k, or high with tk yzn, so it's 50/50.

That's true, but in order to make TK yzn dangerous, you need to RC it. So if the Slayer sees you don't have 50% tension, he'll surely just defend low.

I don't know much about baiken, but isn't 2+K the best option to start pressure ? He won't be able to mash BDC as it's a low hit, and if it connects, you can combo afterwards, right ?

I'm not sure about that, but if his BDC bite wiffs, can you catch him at the end of his animation ? Or can he just flee freely afterward ? (enough invincibility from the BDC ?) If you can, then rush'n break with sol. When he whiffs, run and command grab him. I realized he spamed his BDC bite a lot for nothing.

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Thanks to Beowulf and DBC for the advice on fighting Slayer!

Beowulf: You're certainly correct that I wasn't prepared to fight a BDC'ing Slayer. Or, even worse, a BDC'ing Bera. :vbang: I will try to keep all your advice in mind, especially the stuff about using lows, projectiles on wakeup, and 1F jumps, as I didn't really realize before how crucial they are against Slayer. Oh, and I used to be able to FRC Tatami and GF much more consistently (still almost always messed up j.D FRC in matches), but playing AC a bunch has screwed me up. =P

DBC: Part of my problem that I think you're noticing is that my reaction time isn't that great, and it really shows in the frame delay. Hence, multiple missed opportunities. :gonk: Also, I have a lot of problems with TK yzn in #R. I can do it fairly consistently in AC, but in #R it almost always comes out as sj.S, so I don't usually use the 5P->2K/TK yzn mixup much. Instead, I've been trying to go for 5P->throw/6K or, if I'm farther out, just 5P->6H as a sort of frame trap, but those seem like pretty bad ideas against BDC'd moves. =/ Also, I can do the Tatami FRC->iad j.D fairly consistently in training mode, but I almost always drop it in matches because by the time I realize that I've had the opportunity to do it, I've missed the FRC. :vbang:

Oh, and about the anchor counter: it's not that I'm fast or anything, it's just that I'm anticipating hits and doing the motion before hand. I can't get the counter hits without that either, especially with frame delay. =(

Thanks once again for the tips. :)

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some more I-no vs baiken matches. This time the matches were all about zoning (I guess thats what its called hell idk) whats the match up for I-no vs baiken? After playing that match my guess would be 6/4 in Baikens favor. Or it might just be that I suck at zoning. :vbang: Real men fight head on! (no offense jack thats just my motto lol)

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Yes, I think Baiken is at the advantage here. I-No's particularity is that she can pressure by mixing overheads-> lows on okizeme ! But with Baiken's counters, she can't pressure much (the anchor counter hurts !!). So I-No must zone and counter right after. But Baiken can actually pressure. Really hard for I-No.

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Bridget glitch where Faust gives the teddy bear Roger an Enema test [ATTACH]639[/ATTACH]

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some funny replays against pulsr and against sanoishi?(bridget player) [ATTACH]642[/ATTACH] i never put a replay up before, so i don't know if u guys can download it...cuz it doesn't look like everyone else's attached files,,,, how can i make it to show how many views it had

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Bridget glitch where Faust gives the teddy bear Roger an Enema test

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i just saw it, thats funny....what would happen if you didn't attack bridget? would he just stay in that position until the match ended?
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Man replay section been pretty dead. =/

I'll liven it up.

Here is I-no vs Robo Ky, Millia, Slayer, Faust, and I-no.

On the Slayer match I hit a HUGE combo. My best combo I've ever done with I-no against a real opponent.

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ROFL. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. I would have soft reset-ed too! OMG this is the SECOND funniest replay I've ever seen. The first was when I did 49 clashes in one round with a chipp player. (edit) Frees' post is now magically below mine.

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1 hit knock out. featuring May Vs. Bridget....file of bridget getting "knocked the fuck out"(in smokeys voice from the move FRIDAY) it happens in round 4

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ROFL. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA. I would have soft reset-ed too!

OMG this is the SECOND funniest replay I've ever seen. The first was when I did 49 clashes in one round with a chipp player.

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Frees' post is now magically below mine.

lol 49 clash?

my funniest replay was when I played May against a Chipp, in the beginning of the round I did 6p, CH and Chipp got stunned and instant killed rofl

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