[CPEX] Ragna Combo Thread

Final Ultima · October 9, 2014

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This thread will be for posting combos for Ragna in Chronophantasma Extend. For your combo to be posted on here, please be sure to have these things:

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Tong · March 22, 2015

From Midscreen to Near-Corner (P1 starting position)

(air hit) CH j.C> 5B> 5D(1)> 214B>>delay 214D> dash 5B> 5C> TK j.214C> dash 5B> 5C> 5D> 236D (DC)> dash 6A> 5D> 214A>>214D

Requires: --
Damage: 3135
Heat Gain: 27%
Lifesteal: --

Video Reference

Midscreen (Has fullscreen carry)

5B> 5C (ODC)> dash 5B> 5C> 5D (DC)> 236D (DC)> dash 5B> 5C> TK j.214B>>delay 214D> dash 5B> 5C> 5D~

Requires: Burst Icon, 91-100% Life
Damage: 4236
Heat Gain: 30%
Lifesteal: --

Video Reference

SoulGuitarist · April 14, 2015

I wrote down the first few combos from this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWg4F4u9ZYY

My eyes are very weak and the quality didn't really help so I'm sorry I couldn't see the damage. ;_;

I hope this helps some players though. I'll edit the post later with the rest of the combos.

5B>5C>2D>RC>6C>j.214C>5B>5C>5D(1)>214B~214D>5B>5C>5D>623D~236C~214D

5B>5C>2D>RC>5C>5D(1)>214B~214D>5B>5C>5D>623D~236C~214D

(midscreen)5B>5C>2D>RC>6C>j.214C>5B>5C>5D>236D>dash>5C>5D>632D~236C~214D

(corner)5B>5C>214A~214D>RC>5B>5C>5D>236D>5B>5C>5D>22C>623C~236C~214D

(corner)5B>5C>214A~214D>RC>dash recommended>3C>22C>236D>5C>6A>j.C>jc>j.C>j.214C>3C>623D~236C>214D

5B>5C>214A~214D>RC>5B>5C>j.214B~j.214D(Not sure if it's jumping. It looks like it from the video to me but if it doesn't work, it's simply 214B~214D)>5B>5C>5D>623D~236C~214D

(corner)5B>5C>2D>RC>3C>22C>236D>5C>6A>j.C>jc>j.C>j.214C>5C>5D>214A~214D

(midscreen)6B>6A>5D(1)>214B~214D>5B>5C>5D>236D>dash>5C>623C~236C~214D

6B>6A>5D(1)>214B~214D>5B>5C>5D>623D~236C~214D

(corner)6B>6A>5D>236D>3C>22C>dash>5B>5C>5D>623D~236C~214D

BlackYakuzu94 · April 14, 2015

Can you also write the damage and heat gain if possible?

SoulGuitarist · April 14, 2015

My eyes are very weak and the quality didn't really help so I'm sorry I couldn't see the damage. ;_;

@BlackYakuzu94 - Yes. I'll add the damage and heat gain values when I transcribe the rest of the video. Though it may take awhile because of my super weak vision and I have some homework but I'll try to put up the accurate values or at least accurate as possible for each combo soon.

Tong · April 14, 2015

We will get accurate data when the game is out, so don't sweat on it

PS.: I like the old combo thread format (CS1 onwards) better.

Koga_Noid · April 26, 2015

Updated my CH 5D combo.

[corner, 40% or lower health] 5D < A+B < 3C < 22C < 236D < 5C < 6A < hjc < j.C < j.214C < 3C < ODC < 623D < 236C < 214D < falling j.D < 214B < 214D< jc < j.214D < 632146D = 6616 dmg

KayEff · April 28, 2015

more of my signature lab-work

corner 5B+C > 236D > 5B > 5C > jc j.214C > 5B > 5C > 5D > 22C > 214A >> 214D

dmg 3737 heat 26

5B > 5C > 6C > delay 6D > jc delay j.C > j.214C > 5B > 5C > j.214B >> 214D > 5C > 5D > 214A >> 214D

dmg 4616 heat 33

j.C > j.D > 5B > 6A > 6D > jc j.214B >> 214D > 5B > 5C > 214C > 5B > 5C > 5D > 214A >> 214D

dmg 2705 heat 19

more coming as i figure out the combo theory

BlueXIII · April 28, 2015

I'm having some trouble with combos like:

5B > 6A > 6D > 214B >> delay 214D > 5C > hjc j.B > j.C > j.D > jc j.214C > 5B > 5D > 623D >> 236C >> 214D

5B > 5C > 214A >> 214D RC > dash 5B > 5C > jc j.214B >> delay 214D > 5C > jc j.B > j.C > j.214C > 5C > 5D > 623D >> 236C >> 214D

My problem is with the j.214C in both. It seems like sometimes the dummy will hit the ground and tech immediately, and other times they'll bounce and allow me to continue the combo. Any idea why this might be happening?

KayEff · April 28, 2015

it's all about where the opponent is when you start belial edge. ideally, you want to be as close to the opponent as possible, while only half a body length above you.

some characters have wonky hitboxes so midscreen belial will differ on a character by character basis. i seem to get consistent results against ragna.

maybe try using dash 5C and see if you can get anything out of it.

TheHitmarkersPro · April 29, 2015

the belial midscreen route i've been using which has been pretty consistent for me on everyone is

5B 6A 6D j214B>>dl 214D 5B(low hit) 5C jB jC j214C 5B 5C 5D 623D>>236C>>214D (3646)

also 100% OD midscreen 5B 5C cOD 5C 214A>>214D 5B 5C jB jC j214C 5B 5C 5D 623D>>236C>>214D (4459)

can we do tk belial midscreen? can't seem to get it to hit and idk if it actually works

Edit: fixed GH input lol

KayEff · April 30, 2015

tk belial is very finnicky, it's character specific and requires pretty specific conditions, but i can confirm that it's doable

Giggles454 · April 30, 2015

5B 6A 6D j214D>>dl 214B 5B(low hit) 5C jB jC j214C 5B 5C 5D 623D>>236C>>214D (3646)

can we do tk belial midscreen? can't seem to get it to hit and idk if it actually works

j.214B >> dl 214D*

The TK belial is a bitch to do. It seems that you can do it after an air or ground gauntlet hades. The trick after the 214D is to dash 5B and have the 5B hit quite low, so you want the opponent to be as low and as close to you as possible.

TheHitmarkersPro · April 30, 2015

j.214B >> dl 214D*
The TK belial is a bitch to do. It seems that you can do it after an air or ground gauntlet hades. The trick after the 214D is to dash 5B and have the 5B hit quite low, so you want the opponent to be as low and as close to you as possible.

Do you mean 5C? 5B isn't jcable AFAIK, or 5B > 5C?

SoulGuitarist · April 30, 2015

Just got the game yesterday.

I'm having a hard time connecting 6C>j.214C. Most times the opponent flashes white and techs after the j.214C. I can occasionally be able to continue the combo on accident but I want to be able to do it consistently.

Is my timing to late? Is it to early? Would greatly appreciate some help.

Example of a combo:

5B>5C>2D>RC>6C>j.214C>5B>5C>5D(1)>214B~214D>5B>5C>5D>623D~236C~214D

KayEff · April 30, 2015

i wouldn't rely on 6C > j.214C, since it relies on you being incredibly close to the opponent. i get much more consistent success when i do 6C > 6D > jc j.C > j.214C. there are delays before 6D and j.C, but you can easily mess around with it yourself to understand how it works.

also, combos with the latter route do more damage anyways

BlueXIII · May 1, 2015

Can someone tell me if this combo

6D > j.D (whiff) > 5B > 5C > 5D(1) > 214B >> delay 214D > 5B > 5C > jc j.B > j.C > j.214C > 5C > 5D > 214A >> 214D

Is character specific? I've tried on the entire cast and I have not been able to get it to work on Azrael, Amane, Ragna, Makoto, Taokaka, Litchi, Tager, Izayoi, Noel, Carl, Rachel, Valk, or Bang. On each character, the problem is that the j.214C does not connect with their hitbox, with the exception of Tager, who techs instantly after it brings him to the ground. It could just be my poor execution, so I'm wondering.

Also, if this combo is character specific, what would be the most optimal and universal combo from 6D starter to use as an alternative?

SoulGuitarist · May 1, 2015

i wouldn't rely on 6C > j.214C, since it relies on you being incredibly close to the opponent. i get much more consistent success when i do 6C > 6D > jc j.C > j.214C. there are delays before 6D and j.C, but you can easily mess around with it yourself to understand how it works.
also, combos with the latter route do more damage anyways

Alright! Thank you very much!

Giggles454 · May 1, 2015

Do you mean 5C? 5B isn't jcable AFAIK, or 5B > 5C?

Yea, you still do 5B > 5C > TK j.214C.

It's just that, the important part is the dash 5B.

KayEff · May 1, 2015

couple BK combos, both from 5B crouching

5B > 5C > 6C > jc OD > 6D > jc j.214C > 5B > 5C > j.214B >> 214D > 6B > 236D > dc 214A >> 214D > 3C > 632146D

dmg: 6494 heat 38 - 50 = -12

corner 5B > 5C > 6C > jc OD > 6D > jc j.214C > 3C > 22C > 236D > dc 214B >> 214D > jc 623D >> 236C >> 214D > j.D > j.214D > 632146D

dmg: 6951 heat 38 - 50 = -12

Giggles454 · May 2, 2015

[Corner, Crouching]

5B > 5C > 6C> 6D > j.C > j.214C > 5C > 5D > 236D > 2C > 5C > 5D > 623D >> 236C >> 214D (5018)

SoulGuitarist · May 4, 2015

Hi everyone. I been watching (and playing against) Ragnas that use 623C as a wake-up DP or take a risk and RC it for a combo after the second hit.

What would you guys say would be the best combos with 623C starter in mid-screen and corner? I been currently been doing 623C>RC>2C>5D(1)>214B>214D>5B>5C>5D>214A~214D

Tong · May 4, 2015

Hi everyone. I been watching (and playing against) Ragnas that use 623C as a wake-up DP or take a risk and RC it for a combo after the second hit.
What would you guys say would be the best combos with 623C starter in mid-screen and corner? I been currently been doing 623C>RC>2C>5D(1)>214B>214D>5B>5C>5D>214A~214D

I dont have the game yet, but I've seen:

C ID>> Upper (RC)> AD j.C> BE> stuff midscreen. Easier to confirm and doesnt require Counter Hit status.

Corner combo is probably: C ID>> Upper (RC)> BE> 5B> 5C> 5D> DS (DC)> 5D> (22C)> HF~

SoulGuitarist · May 5, 2015

Corner only. Does 4.8k. Requires 25 heat.

5B>3C>22C>5AB(CT)>5C>5D(1)>214B~214D>5B>5C>5D>236D>623D~236C~214D

KayEff · May 8, 2015

corner to corner DID crossup

DID > RC dash 5B > 5D > 236D > dc dash 5B > 5C > j.214B >> 214D > dash 5C > jc j.B > j.C > j.214C > dash 3C > 22C > 214A >> 214D

dmg 4342 heat 18

note: first 5B should hit the opponent at pretty much the same horizontal position as you, doing so will have 5D leave the opponent right in front of you so that the 236D into dc dash 5B is doable.

execution is balls hard, but it's the most optimal purely midscreen combo route off of crossup divider. also character-specific, haven't tested out on all characters, but it works on nu

EDIT: if you want a sub-optimal but miles easier combo, try this:

DID > RC dash 5B > 5D > 236D > dc dash 5C > jc j.C > j.D > j.214B >> j.214D > dash 5B > 5C > 5D > 22C > dc dash 3C > 214A >> 214D

dmg 4111 heat 18

EDIT: optimal version of above combo route:

DID > RC dash 5B > 5D > 236D > dc dash 5B > 5C > jc j.C > j.214B >> j.214D > dash 5B > 5C > 5D > 22C > dc dash 3C > 214A >> 214D

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