Soniti Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 This thread is for noteworthy Rachel videos, both match and combo, and discussion of said videos. MSY's Rachel combo video, 風の調律 (youtube link) Nanashi's Rachel combo movie (再編集 version), http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7657424 (youtube link) ^not sure if the person's name is actually Nanashi (which means nameless), or they are anonymous. New: H.H's Rachel combo + guard crushes and setups movie (実戦用セットプレイ集): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fckbv1fPWO8 Please label your videos with at least what they are or which characters are in them. High level Japanese Rachel players: Kechan (けちゃん）, H.H, N-O (N男), MSY, Yume (AKA Halloween/ハロウィン), Rise, Hatsune Piku （初音ピク), MASA8, Rock (ラーク), Esukiu (えすきう), Tobari (とばり), Aoniku (青肉), Eru (える)
Most Unknown Posted May 1, 2009 Posted May 1, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBLP...eature=related Rachel Vs Hakuman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAxur...eature=related Rachel vs Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLpWm...eature=related Rachel vs Bang Fixed. My bad
Soniti Posted May 1, 2009 Author Posted May 1, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAxur...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBLP...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLpWm...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgp51...eature=related 1) None of those URL's work 2) Please label videos with who the opponents are and/or what makes them special.
Lil Sassy Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAxur...eature=related Rachel vs Ragna Maybe I'm just tripping but how come at around 3:46 the pumpkin that pops out doesnt move with the wind?
wuku Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Maybe I'm just tripping but how come at around 3:46 the pumpkin that pops out doesnt move with the wind? That usually happens if Rachel uses wind before the pumpkin is fully summoned.
Lil Sassy Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 Ugh gotcha it really looked to me like he had it out all the way when he hit wind
kro_ Posted May 2, 2009 Posted May 2, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy5RbRP5A1w&feature=channel_page Rachel vs Arakune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL-wFzflEBs&feature=channel_page Rachel vs Carl Same Rachel player and both close matches though I'm not sure who the players are.
Lil Sassy Posted May 3, 2009 Posted May 3, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6899991 The Rachel Glitch
Most Unknown Posted May 4, 2009 Posted May 4, 2009 http://gamechariot.com/08movie_BB.html Rachel vs Rachel Rachel vs Litchi The first video of Rachel starts at 6:50. Shadow is playin Rachel now who seemed to be a loyal Bang player. He applied his rush-down into Rachel's gameplay. Alot of guard break strings to watch for and some nice oki set-ups.
Most Unknown Posted May 8, 2009 Posted May 8, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEm8BnjMTY8&feature=PlayList&p=D394C3D365314C46&index=8 Shadow (Rachel) vs Gucci (Noel) Shadow tryin to get creative wit wind. At 2:33 of the vid, check out what he does wit the Lobelia. Its kinda risky IMO, but could bait a safer CH into combo if done at a better distance ( I mean Rachel's position ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSa-ZhHIUs&feature=PlayList&p=D394C3D365314C46&index=20 DIO (Carl) vs Shadow (Rachel) Some key Carl strats to look for. Wind to distance from Nee-San (Nirvana) Carl specific combos and Ni-San killer strats. Very good match overall.
Soniti Posted May 13, 2009 Author Posted May 13, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaBLP...eature=related Rachel Vs Hakuman I remember this video -- it was one of the first applications of Rachels bound (lvl.3 j.2c) combos. One thing to note about it is how many throws Rachel is eating -- you can avoid them with universal defense (4a+b+c). It is a very good option when you see a tick throw coming, due to it's 11f throw invulnerability. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAxur...eature=related Rachel vs Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLpWm...eature=related Rachel vs Bang While the Rachel player in these videos is good, they are WAY outdated and thus have early combos with lower damage. Please avoid videos of Rachel's using worse non-frog combos on frog characters as it misleads new players. Anything before late Feb/early March tends to have older combos. http://gamechariot.com/08movie_BB.html Rachel vs Rachel Rachel vs Litchi The first video of Rachel starts at 6:50. Shadow is playin Rachel now who seemed to be a loyal Bang player. He applied his rush-down into Rachel's gameplay. Alot of guard break strings to watch for and some nice oki set-ups. Never link to gamechariot's main video page for specific videos, because videos on that page are updated&removed often. Find/upload them on Nicovideo/youtube instead. On the topic of Shadow though, he does have a unique Rachel style, attempting to guard crush his opponent via safe frog setups (via pumpkin) rather than mix them up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEm8BnjMTY8&feature=PlayList&p=D394C3D365314C46&index=8 Shadow (Rachel) vs Gucci (Noel) Shadow tryin to get creative wit wind. At 2:33 of the vid, check out what he does wit the Lobelia. Its kinda risky IMO, but could bait a safer CH into combo if done at a better distance ( I mean Rachel's position ) This setup it way too dangerous to use unless you have a lot of hp and the projectile will finish them. The only time I do it is if I accidentally 236c and they are in my face. 4d wind works fine too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJSa-ZhHIUs&feature=PlayList&p=D394C3D365314C46&index=20 DIO (Carl) vs Shadow (Rachel) Some key Carl strats to look for. Wind to distance from Ni-San (Nirvana) Carl specific combos and Ni-San killer strats. Very good match overall. Shadow used shitty versions of Rachel combos throughout the whole match in addition to dropping things. Take a look at my combo list -- you can frog Carl midscreen and oki him (you just can't combo into the frog with 3c, you need to 2b/5b). He did however do alright vs Nee-san (Nii-san = male older brother... Carl thinks the doll is his older sister). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy5RbRP5A1w&feature=channel_page Rachel vs Carl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL-wFzflEBs&feature=channel_page Rachel vs Arakune Same Rachel player and both close matches though I'm not sure who the players are. You mixed up your video links -- the first one is vs Arakune, the 2nd one Carl. The player is Hatsune Piku, one of my favorite Rachel players. The video vs Carl has a good example of escaping from Carl's throw loop via wind @ 0:27
LuMaLo Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Didnt feel like making a new thread for this, what are the best Rachel players out there??? I know of Shadow and Fyo, who else should i keep an eye on? Thx
Alzarath Posted May 20, 2009 Posted May 20, 2009 Didnt feel like making a new thread for this, what are the best Rachel players out there??? I know of Shadow and Fyo, who else should i keep an eye on? Thx Hatsune Piku as mentioned above. Kechan / Rise / HH / N-O / MSY / Yume (so I've heard, I cannot find vids of him) are all very good. (Sprt- if you're reading this, STFU)
Soniti Posted May 20, 2009 Author Posted May 20, 2009 Also Rock and MASA8 are noteworthy players. I'll add the list of players to the first post.
Discotheque Posted May 23, 2009 Posted May 23, 2009 Just watch vids of Alzarath raping people if you want US Rachel vids.
kro_ Posted May 24, 2009 Posted May 24, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRrY11roRUw&feature=related @2:20 Shadow (Rachel) vs Kaqn (Ragna) @6:00 Shadow (Rachel) vs Manakan (Litchi) starting @7:40 is a great example of a frog combo into frog/pumpkin okizeme
Soniti Posted May 26, 2009 Author Posted May 26, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7162663 MASA8 vs Esukiu's Rachel, a Noel, and a Litchi. Showcases MASA8's style of attempting to otg 3c after air combos as a tech trap/free black beat dmg+oki. If it connects and sweeps he can throw out a pumpkin and proceed to oki (or maybe cancel it into 236a and rapid cancel 5b relaunch combo??? definitely if they tech and it's a new combo. as black beat it *might* work.) Particularly effective if he sets out a frog before the air combo and his black beat otg 3c combos into the frog. He actually shortens his air combos slightly in order to land sooner and do this. Major pro of this technique is that it saves wind you would normally use to wind a pumpkin down. Major con seems to be that you are basically in a neutral situation instead of a favorable one if they neutral tech and low block the 3c, unless a frog will put them into blockstun immediately after. Also shows his constant use of 1 hit 3c's in combos. ---- I definitely need to test out this tech trap style oki against kind-of/non-frogables... Doesn't seem worth it vs characters you can normally combo with frog though.
kro_ Posted May 27, 2009 Posted May 27, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7162663 @0:55 he does 6a 5b j.b j.c dj j.2cdc dash-up 6a super x2 in the corner. Any idea if that works midscreen or on the rest of the cast? Comment says it does ~4700 dmg.
Soniti Posted May 27, 2009 Author Posted May 27, 2009 Pretty sure it works midscreen on most if not all of the cast based on seeing it done there in other videos. I haven't actually tried it out yet though. Do note that if you ever have the chance to do melee range super x2 in a combo, you're better off throwing out a 236a in between for extra damage. If you are near the beginning of the combo you can even throw a 6a in between too after the 236a. So... 632146c 236a dash forward slightly 6a 632146c... You can also combo into a frog from the super and super during that frog, although that may or may not reduce your damage/prevent another frog from comboing out of your 2nd super.
Soniti Posted May 27, 2009 Author Posted May 27, 2009 j.c in particular has massive hitstun. Winded j.2c is decent too. edit: during my brief testing i actually couldn't get it to combo into 6a+super midscreen, although corner was fine. I was able to use it as extra damage from 6a/throws though, regardless of positioning (6a/throw+7d 5b j.b j.c dj delay j.2dc j.c land sj j.b j.c dj j.2c (j.214b wind oki)
kro_ Posted May 30, 2009 Posted May 30, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7196043 Rachel vs. Noel Just a fun match to watch. Noteworthy for the 40 straight seconds of corner rape at ~12:00 and the huge damage from 100% meter at the end of the match.
Soniti Posted May 31, 2009 Author Posted May 31, 2009 Actually I got it midscreen (6a 5b j.b j.c dj delay j.2dc j.c land dash forward 6a super) first try on Hakumen today... So it's either character specific/easier on certain character(s) or flukes are great. I'm thinking maybe I'm not doing the j.c before landing late enough on other characters.
kro_ Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm7213411 2 fights - Rachel vs Jin, Rachel vs Noel Very defensive Rachel. Seems content to just block and let people get hit by pumpkins as they attack. Also uses frog to cover the recovery on a blocked chair. He stays grounded for most of the match and lets time run out for quite a few. @3:15 reminds me of runaway storm.
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