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some more stuff. -fuck ex roll. seriously. how to beat. as stated before, this move is an instant game changer in/near corner. letting naoto get away with it will not be tolerated. there must be a way to reliably blow her up for it. -never ever b zio. ever. a zio is very weak but usable. common knowledge l suppose. -poison is such a blessing in this MU. get it, keep in by stalling and blocking. the damage is low but very reliable, and will force naoto to get aggressive. it's alot easier to stop an approaching naoto, albeit risky.

new mixup thing that l totally didn't steal. no really... genuine lab time here. need - 50+ heat (more depending on setup and combo route). fear recommended. pressure - c garu(6, cross over the foe) OMC j.44 j.a ch. normal combo from here is j.a d.garu loop x 3 2a 5b 5c 2c b bufu w/e from here. this does 4.9k with fear. without fear the combo and the damage become harder and worse. you're looking at j.a dash 5aaa a bufu stuff, max. anyway, c garu is gapless from all her normals, so this is legit. get creative. other things that might work are c garu (6) land 2a/throw, j.44 d.garu, j.b for pressure, and perhaps a c garu right on top of their heads for an ambiguous left/right mixup. (ps - dunno if j.a sb garu links, that'd boost the non ch damage a bit.)

if you rc 5c, you can do any special you want before the second hit, you just have to be quick. l personally do 5c(1) rc b bufu right when he's about to attack again. the second swipe acts as a visual illusion, he switches position midswipe and some people may get scared and mash/jump. it looks pretty cool too, and to make it faster l do 2abc14b so the rc comes out as late as possible.

ggs to cat and garu for holding it down.

we can indeed punish quite a bit of yukiko's gameplan. once she gets the momentum it may be a little difficult to stop her, and patience will become key.

there are plenty of seats when it comes to cars, you guys just have to get creative

3 straight games of playing like a scrub and getting bodied effortlessly by 3 different people is telling me l shouldn't be playing right now. ggs ranked.

play yu, mash sweep, oki too strong, SSS tier yada yada yada labrys is ez but shes bad. yu is ez and hes GOOD. l mean, hes the main character. we all saw what ragna could do all these years by being the main squeeze tl;dr main yu

l saw it and l agree with kiba, mostly. 5c was getting you punished often. it's particularly bad vs mitsuru. your pressure could use some touching up. after 2b, delay the j.b so that it'll connect. you were doing it too early and mitsuru can punish that hard. delay j.b isn't gapless either, so mix it up between 2b delay j.b, 2b delay jump, 2b OMC j.a/land 2a/land throw for mixup. instead of 5c in pressure, opt for stagger strings like 5a 2aa, safe strings and crossups like 5aa IAD air turn j.b to keep your strings fresh. use 5d during random points in your pressure so your foe doesn't block all day. other than that l feel you did pretty well, as far as this matchup goes.

will slab's 8d stop tracking if you get her to block or hit her? forgot about chie, yeah that MU is around 6-4. on top of her insanely good pressure she good mobility and fast normals. her 5c covers alot of space with good startup so shes not completely useless midrange. meteors get her in instantly and there isnt shit we can do about it but get mixed up to oblivion.

oh shit really!? wth... when did this happen? l guess it was only a matter of time lol. my bad btw. that totally mind fucked me. ok i'll review it later on today after l get some shuteye.

two things. one, the characters are mixed up (you're playing mitsuru not chris). not to be a nazi but l thought it should be brought to your attention. two, this is the wrong thread. as you're playing mitsuru, you need other people who play mitsuru (more than us) to critique you for better accuracy. the right thread for that would be here: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?14924-Mitsuru-Kirijo-Critique-Thread/page2 lt'd be easier to help if say... you played liz and chrisG played mitsuru, but that's not the case.

ggs to transientfaith and giga that nigga. thank you based garu for your 8k comebacks tonight. what would l do without you.

l don't think yosuke is particularly difficult, contrary to his style you just have to play really slow and steady. l would actually put it like, 'one of the hardest, but not hard.' l'd say 5.5 yosuke tops. but that's just me. yu is annoying. definitely 5.5 yu or more, but probably closer to that number. it's not free but it's difficult to do the norm against him. once he gets that oki going you might die. YU OKI TOO STRONG!!! rofl once again, and l can't say it enough times. fuck mitsuru. akihiko's pressure is very good, and the MU changes once he gets 25 heat, or able to use maziodyne. l dunno. l feel like it's even because it just feels easier to keep this guy out. garu hurts and is super easy to do on him. l dunno if liz has 6-4 MU 'sides that rich ho, but yukiko and naoto are really going to try one's patience.

no burst means no burst baiting how the fuck do l play if it's gone but no burst during OD. they really trying to make this that capcom game aren't they. that'd actually be interesting. (provided OD isn't/doesn't turn out broken. [it will.])

what you steal from us players is actually what you're stealing from japan players cut the middle man and steal from japan

thanks for clarifying guys. funny because i'm staring at the pic trying to make it look like noel, but it just won't happen. the pic is blurry enough to still confuse me rofl

ggs to kazuki and cat. l bet liz was a quirky child growing up. she does the funniest things. such an unorothodox char....

hakumen is beginning to recognize his feelings for ragna.

carl used to crossdress!? there serm to be new astrals. carl's looks cool already. the middle (l assume is kune's) looks rather scary. noel's looks very... uh... l dont even know. but it's not jumping with excitement atm.

mitsuru is fucking gay. kanji, l think it's like 6 or 6.5 liz favor. kanji might be a better tager but similar to tager, kanji has a lot of stuff that can be beaten on reaction by liz. yeah she dies really quickly...and? first, she dies really quickly vs pretty much everyone, it's not really a kanji-specific perk. second, it's not over till it's over vs liz. she has the comeback potential of justin wong. lastly, in MU's like this l go by the philosophy of 'you shouldn't even be getting hit'. liz can keep kanji in her clutches the entire round if played correctly. alot of his fullscreen stuff is easily punished or dodgeable, and you shouldn't be close to him to begin with. will you always get perfects? no. but knowing the MU is a huge, huge step to beating many a kanji's asses in a smart fashion before he can grab momentum.

kro, why aren't you a mod yet? also, who are some good labrys players to watch? she does look interesting, but apparently she's bad somehow. l say, not with dat j.b she isn't. srsly though, good labrys players.

we have the worst mirrors ever. seriously. and l thought loli vs loli was bad.

i've kinda grown used to everyone being able to punish liz fullscreen with heat (most of the cast can with 50/25 heat and some with none). it really just comes down to how good your yomi is, and how good you can test the foe's reactions. as with most matchups you're just going to have to turtle your ass off your body. fortunately liz is fairly decent in the punish department, and aigis definitely is not one of those characters who functions well without her persona.

IABD j.b also beats 2b reliably and puts some more distance between you two. zio is okay in this matchup. she has a few things that can be interrupted by zio. it won't keep her out long, but it will punish any attempt for aigis to fortify her offence/defence. as you mentioned aigis shield super > liz fullscreen. nothing she has offensively beats it, but its very punishable on block. 5a/2a/2b/normal into zio to beat athena shield (5d). after 5a and 2b, jump. after 2a, block, roll, whatever you want. any normal into zio punishes aigis who think its safe to get in via orgia dash, or to shoot bullets. it puts her fullscreen with 1 less persona life and possibly less bullets.