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None of those changes will really make her to have a new launcher after 5B. Probably we'll have to do something like 5B->6A->JC->j.2D~B->22C/5C->2D~6->j.BB->j.C->j.9D->j.BB->236Bx5

Try to read again what he said. And unless she had any buff that wasn't listed, she probably don't have any new gatlings since she didn't get any buffs that allow it like most of characters did.

The last time I read that was in CS1 loketest from Rachel players...and they nerfed her more in the final build. That's why I'm saying that it's better don't really expect that ASW really buff her decently.

Taokaka is already a hard character and according to Arcadia now they want her to be easier to play...this is bullshit And I'm going to be sincere, she already was pretty bad in the 4th loketest, they still nerfed her even more in the 5th and gave her another useless buff...I wouldn't be surprised if they nerfed her even more in the final build and give her another useless buff like they did in every loketest. Also it's not like they will do extreme changes in the final build, it'll be one thing or another...but I still have hope that she won't be so bad.

*see Rachel CT->CS* and I wouldn't get my hopes up because of the Challenge Mode, she still has combos like 5B->6A(2 hits)->JC->j.B->j.C->etc, 5B->6A(2hits)->236A->2D->etc and a lot of useless shit they can use for challenge mode. I can even bet they'll do a 3C->RC->5D~6 challenge. However I still have some hope for the final build. EDIT: I was testing random shit in training mode, 5B->6A(1hit)->5D~6 works fine against every character (for my surprise, even Hazama and Litchi). 5B->6A->5D~6->j.C->...->9D->2D~C->j.C->9D->3D->j.236Bx5 (3080) However, I don't know how much it'll does because of her drive same move proration and that we'll have to use j.BB instead of 3D

Okay, so we don't even have 1 taunt combos anymore...it's kinda ironic to see that Bang and Litchi are still pretty good when Tao got nerfed this bad.

According to ukyo_rulz, we still have our AB2 combo in coner after all...but Tao received another nerf that's not translated yet.

Half of her challenge combos are the same combos with different starter. Tao was always like this, we just need a useful starter. They are saying they found a new 3C combo, but nobody posted about it yet. BTW Ronove, there's not any other impressions about Tao in those japanese forums? Even though the last impressions were very heavy, they were all made by a Carl player...it would be good to see the opnion from the Tao japanese players.

Are you seriously using a comparison between Carl and Tao as an argument in every quote? It's not like Tao lost one or two possibility of combo, she lost every useful combo starter and she didn't receive a buff like most of characters that allow her to do new combos. The same move proration thing doesn't only reduce her damage, but also has the possibilty of combos like 5B->6A->JC->2D~B not being worth of using. They nerfed her drive like this because she had a strong runaway, that's true and it had to be nerfed. However, it's obvious they did that in the wrong away. I ask myself as a Tao player...where's the fun in playing a Tao like this? I don't really care if Tao is bottom tier or not, even in other fighting games low tiers are fun to use, the same way some Bang/Hakumen/Tager players found fun to play them even if they were low tier...but with those changes she doesn't look like the fun Tao she was in CT/CS. What will Tao play now? Spamming 5C hoping to get a counter hit? Not being able to use her mobility anymore to get close and start using moves like j.C and 5C to zone? I'm not worried what tier Tao will be, I'm worried how Tao will play now. They want Tao to be simplier, but I don't fucking care about that...I liked a complicated yet fun Tao she was before. But like you said, those changes aren't final. I still have some hope for Tao...but I can't say I'm positive about that.

Yeah...I posted that before I knew the Drive same move proration nerf... Well, let's see the good side...probably we won't have any CS1 Bang or Litchi in CS2...at least I hope so.

Her HP is still 9,5k.The HP buff was a non-confirmed change. Also her drive cancels needed more recovery anyway, they were away too safe in CS1.

You didn't really read/understand Tao changes or impressions, did you? The prove of that is things you said like "She stilll has has speed, normals and still dance around her opponents". She CAN'T dance arround her opponents like she could anymore, they changed her drive to a point that if you don't do a follow up while using drive (this means using ~A/B/C/6 cancel), she will stop mid air and fall to the ground and her drive has more recovery now...that means she doesn't have crazy mobility anti-Lambda/Tager now. The real problem about the combos is not the damage, we are pretty aware that everybody in the game had damage nerf, the problem is that she doesn't have any useful laucher anymore since 3C doesn't cancel in drive and now her drive has same move proration, making combos like 5B->6A->JC->2D~B no good anymore. They even nerfed her 6A that wasn't that great as anti-air (not great as Ragna's 6A for example) in the first place. They didn't nerf only her damage or combo, they nerfed her mobility AND she still has a pretty weak defense (9,5k HP, 4 primes, no reversal, they nerfed her CA that was one of the only defense option she had). Not only that, they didn't gave ANY useful buff to her, you can read all loketest topics that you won't see one real buff that isn't useless shit, only nerf after nerf (pretty heavy nerfs). Also if you read the character impressions, the guy says things like "endangered species" and "you could see the despair in the eyes of Tao players"...those are pretty heavy things to say about a character. Don't try to comment about other characters if you don't even understand what happened to it.

Okay...they nerfed her EVEN more after the 4th loketest...I think 5B->6A->JC->2D~B/5D~B won't be so useful now...I think I want to cry.

I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, but...what the fuck?

Probably that's the only part that the new j.B will be useful, probably you will be able to do something like this j.C->9D->j.BB->j.C->9D. For the 3k+ combos, we probably still have 5B->6A->2D~B->22C->2D->j.2D~A (since it's not the same drive move)->9D->etc etc (I think it was ~3.5 in CSI without 2D~C). Maybe you can still taunt->214D->2D~B once even if the taunt prorate isn't 110% anymore. But...yeah, I also don't understand what they want Tao to be now. Edit: 5C CH->6C does wallbounce?

Hun...not really complaining, just commenting her nerfs and that they doesn't make sense. I'm pretty calm anyway, sorry for leaving the wrong impression.

Sure, Taokaka won SBO . But Tao sure was needing to be nerfed a little, she was too safe + high damage + you could run the whole match and still win...but not nerfed like this...not even Litchi or Bang got nerfed this bad. @Cake: the only villiany in Tao forum is you, my friend @Hiago: 6C nerf itself isn't stupid...the 5C CH->6C buff that is stupid

Are you feeling bad about spamming Tao General Topic too? :3. And of course there's anything constructive to post...Tao didn't change a thing in this loketest and she just sucks now. BTW, FUCK YOU HIAGO

I thought you were liking Tao bottom tier

She can't even do that anymore. If you don't do a follow-up while you use her drive, she will stop and fall to the ground, also her drive directions changed too.

I better be quiet for now and don't discuss this anymore.

The same way Rachel nerfs in CS didn't affect her game? Sure