Spirit Juice

Why wouldn't we host any tournaments in July? It's not like Evo is all month. lol~

What do you guys think about stopping 2v2 tournaments? I don't plan on making any anymore due to trying to focus on SSFIV as well, and the interest seems to have died own. Thoughts?

So what happened tonight?

Pot is undoubtedly her worst. Jam (parries and damage) and Slayer (damage). I guess you could even say May and Sol to a degree. Pretty much any character with explosive damage potential.

Trust me. You're not missing anything by not playing GG with qwerty.

Nah, he probably made that tier list.

I think even you would fail at Potemkin. *Watch's Alex's Potemkin SJ backward while spamming j.P*

Her bad match ups finally caught up to her, I guess.

Tager wears black pantsu. *moe blush*

They'd probably still beat you even if they've never even touched GG before.

I approve of these original lines you just came up with. Both statements are true.

Someone that speaks the language of Moon People should go on JBBS and poke/ask around.

If I was trying to start shit, you would know it. It's just a casual observation. I would love to see a recent match up chart too, but those are hard to come by.

I'm referring to the order of each character in their respective tiers. In other words, Arakune, Hakumen, and Carl are not in any particular order; they are all equal. Pretty much in most tier lists, the order is not significant. The only time this is the case would be if you derived the tier list from a match up chart (which is not always accurate).

Horitzontal placement in tier lists doesn't really account for anything unless otherwise stated in the tier list.

My guess is that the level of play in Japan is so high that everyone just knows everyone's mix ups inside and out. Slayer's mix up has never been exceptional; it's just that if he hit you with something it usually hurt a shit ton. Notice how all the B tier characters can pretty much kill you in one combo. Millia is probably in A tier by herself because her mix up is pretty much knocking you down and putting you into some stupid Magneto/Makoto/Vortex-esque mix up. In other words, she just guesses until you die. Because even though GGAC is the better, more refined game, it's actually less balanced now. I find that ironic.

lol @ bbcs currently being more balanced than ggac. HYSTERICAL. Also, updated first post with updated tier list. Guess that means we should just play Slash instead. =3=

SE sticks are fucking awful. Mod that shit ASAP with Sanwa parts. Should be easy too since it's just plug-n-play. Should cost around $40 to mod. I bought a SE stick for BBCT on 360, and the fierce button stopped working 100% within the first few days.

That does not mean air throws were buffed at all. Properties of them were not buffed at all. I personally think air throws in this game are lacking, but I've been spoiled by GG. If they were buffed (i.e. made faster, could hit above), it would punish BB's favor of being in the air rather than being on the ground. Of course they'd have to change damage after an air throw or change some properties around (i.e. only comboable in certain situations, namely screen positioning).

Bursting to prevent curse is pretty much standard now. It's not that big of a deal. There isn't any reason not to burst when you get air thrown by Arakune (unless he air threw you way up in the air). This is actually quite wrong. Air throws, for the most part, remain largely unchanged (aside from the universe tech window being shortened). No air throws got sped up. I think Noel's air throw got nerfed (either worse range or slower start up), and Litchi's air throw range was shortened as well. There were no buffs whatsoever. You are vastly overexaggerating Arakune's effectiveness. Yes, he is a good character; no doubt about that. However, you're making him seem like he's SS tier in your posts, which is simply far from the truth.

Except you're not getting my point at all. XX and #R were very unbalanced. I mean, over half or half the cast was generally considered almost unplayable in comparison to the rest. That is pretty damn awful compared to CS or even CT. The last tier list I remember for #R went all the way down to G tier, although a more recent one probably didn't go that far down the alphabet. Still, the game was much more unbalanced than CT or CS. You probably would have had to played the games competitively to understand.

Not really a fair comparison. #R felt a lot better than XX, although about only half the cast could compete. Eddie had ridiculous damage, stupid lockdown that lead into ezmode high/low set ups that often lead to an unblockable, and could run away/turtle very well. If Eddie got you in a block string, he could still do 50% damage from four god damn hits toward the end because your guard guage was already flashing. Slayer's damage and stun ability were huge, and BDC was still very strong. Millia was pretty much Magneto with tits. Dizzy was a lock down monster with very good damage potential. Robo-Ky had a fuck ton of damage options and gained meter faster than any character. Jam's damage was huge and could pretty much do 50% life with only 25% meter starting off a throw. Most of the cast had a hard time competing with those characters; #R wasn't a very balanced game at all. It was pretty broken, but it was still fun.

I hate to be a jerk about this, but it kinda needs to be said. You're probably still in your fighting game diapers, waddling around with a heavy load stinking up your posts and thought process. Okay that was a little too much. Seriously though, you must be pretty new to the fighting game community because it's well established that S tier means God/top tier. It means those characters are the best in the game. They are god like for the game they are in. You can't compare top tier from other games just because that's just a rather absurd argument. It's like comparing apples and oranges. Yes, they are fruit, but they are completely different fruits. No one in CS or even CT are as stupid as top tier in Hokuto no Ken. To compare them would be stupid. Fuck if you want to be really stupid you can compare Ivan Ooze from Might Morphin Power Rangers Fighting Edition to CS's top tier, but that would make you look like even more of an idiot (hint: Ivan Ooze is considered SS+ tier and is banned, but he's still one tier away from S!). Yes, in comparison to CT's top tier, the top three in CS are a lot less frustrating to deal with, but they are stupid characters for different reasons. If you want to break down tier ranks into worded tiers, here you go. S - God/top A - High B - Mid C - Low D - Shit/bottom Below - Whatever you want to call it because these characters are pretty awful If you want to go higher into SS and SSS tier, the former pretty much means you don't even need to be very good to win with that character (basically has stupid spammable safe moves that cannot be countered in any way, has some crazy stupid bullshit damage, etc.), and the latter even more so (you could probably be a retarded chimp and still win). You're trying to argue semantics for what S tier means, even though it's pretty much widely accepted that S tier also means God tier. It's like trying to argue that Diablo 2 is a MMO because the term MMO is not defined, even though it is.

Usually. Also, this thread is awful. :/

S tier = god tier. This is a standard in fighting games.