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I can really tell 6A has been nerfed big time. In CT, you could do magatama specials after that, and start it off a low or high. Same goes for 6B. However, since he can no longer do this, I'd definitely say he has gotten worse up close, almost as if they prioritized on distance-keeping instead of close-range beatings.

Well, I wouldn't say it counters everything. Projectiles aside, one of Tsubaki's DD landed in Hakumen's AH, and proceeded to Hakumen getting skewered by light bulbs. Don't know if it was bad timing, but I could've sworn I timed it right.

That some great advice, vanfleihight, however for number 6, what about if he decides to counter it?

Agreed. And you certainly don't want to try any attacks if you ever close in Ragna. That 6A is a pain. Either block, and play the guessing game of whether he'll jump or pressure, or try to counter it. The former is safer, but getting that counter nets you a good damage reward, IMO.

How is this 5-5 in Japanese rankings? Whenever I fight Carl, I literally just go in there, get pressured with a bit of IB, and counter Nirvana, especially with Yukikaze.

Nice to know Carls working together against Jin, but in the Carls' opinion, how hard is it to fight against Jin in CS now?