Errol

It's not completely separate, For most moves it is just based on the recovery. I think it was something like 5 frames before being fully recovered, counter hit state ends. Same as attack level and untech time being related. Jin's DP is just slow, imo.

It seems to me like they made it so that SMP doesn't affect damage, and it doesn't affect untech time, except for a window after the same move occurs... Which I think this probably was intentional. Tsubaki can use 214B as a combo extender, but it's also the staple of her ground ender, etc. There are other examples of this. But I don't think there are any other cases that end up this dumb...

This GGs NoSales... Looking forward to CP eliminating gaps between 5a and 5b and 5b and 5bb. I haaaaaaatttttteeeeee thisssssssssss

I feel for you on that. One day we will get in a FT50.

BB for roughly 6 months. I didn't mean to get ragna so I just started practicing inputs since I can't play that pad if my life depending on it. xD If you think back I never had the "troll star demon cause it's hip" mentality then why would I act on it now? GG's either way, it good to be back! Hmm. Either a reasonable explanation (I Haven't Played In 6 Months Bro), or just another form of trolling.

I'm not disagreeing per se but you've always left before I've left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Kytusb0Yg&t=6m Just gonna point this out here. J214B being used and landing being charge cancelled for a good chunk of charge without losing pressure.

No cp before selection time. I doubt they would bring in CP unless it proved itself at other venues like P4A did. BB release schedule will always screw the game for Evo.

What do you mean supermugen with overdrive？

I mean, It's not just encourage more variation. I think the damage will probably be pretty good anyway, but, you have to remember that doing J236D>j214D in CP gets you 3000 damage in two moves (two proration hits). and 46D>236D gets you about 2500 in 2. And at high prorations. In a sense there's a bit less freedom. Here are some numbers. (p2s excluding starting 6c) 6c>J236D>J214D>2944 .84 P2 Real P2 .41 6c>46D>236D> 2612 .932 P2 Real P2 .456 6c>214D>22d(charged)> 2479 .8178 P2 Real P2 .4 6c>236D>214D> 2437 .7743 P2 Real P2 .379 for fun 6c> CT > 2010 1.00 P2 Real P2 1.00 6c>Blades> 3126 .721P2 Real P2 .5047 You really want to fit the special effects in. It's hard to say how much it matters that you can't use one if you started with J214D.. It's nice to have both options available though. When it comes to combo theory, theoretically the 'time limit' on combos might mean that doing damage faster might make stuff better than it would otherwise seem. When it comes down to it I think that is part of why they changed the J236D> J214D effect. One to make it less time and two to make it so it could be killed by SMP (Since SMP actually has no proration involved anymore, it seems, if we could link our SMP moves we'd end up with combos like that Hazama 10k OD combo...)

and it does, D specials all still have 84% repeat proration during mugen, you don't want to do multiple unless you can 4 or 5 236236D because of it

Mugen in CSEX DOES have SMP on moves. off an air starter the strongest you can do is J236D>J214D>623D>J214D. But this could also affect OD combos off of air starters. Should remember that in OD, being able to do 623C > J236D > J214D is not bad at all. So that's locked out. It's hard to sa without having hands on the game. OD combos are going to be peculiar though because you have to have a balance between burning charge and recovering charge from OD. So stuff like 6bb serves a good filler, etc.

Apparently J214D and J236D>J214D effect are on same-move proration, which is kind of blah

GGs. Just didn't want to bother finishing that out when the lag hit, ha. for the record it appears to be my conn

The World (Jin) VS Various Good stuff

Mucky is back to his old lag switching ways

hater

I knew without clicking it'd be this.

fixed.

you probably don't get this much but I hate tager's hitbox.

Your nice avatar will become obsolete. My avatar, on the other hand, has only become better.... ... even though it's also a removed color.

Mucky da bes. I want to play you more. I'm sure BJ (that is, BlackJaguar, not BatousaiJ) does too.

Anyone want to play?

i want to play some people tomorrow.

left room to join cookie. ggs those few games.