Errol

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What are jump startup numbers for the cast? I thought arakune had the slowest jump startup for that matter, altho he used to have the fastest I think

Ah yeah, air throw range nerf in CP. Probably can't charge cancel > air throw due to range.

xntrikcat: "I'll give guys 5 more mins then I'll invite backups"

You just sign on PSN, you'll have an invite to the chat from Xcat, and then you'll go all the way to the right to find the invite to it in the menu.

Guys sign on PSN and get into the chat if you're around?

I think air charge cancels are going to be mostly annoying to use. But, I think air charge cancel > throw when you meet in the air will be fun. As far as frame advantage, there are going to be all these weird heights with regards to charge canceling. You need to charge cancel at a height where you have enough time to get out an attack. There are heights where if you try to JC your attack won't come out. if you JB, your attack will come out but your frame advantage and combo potential will be gone by the time you land. (There's virtually no possibility to combo off JB after a charge cancel even at ultra-deep height). Then the fact that lots of times when you hit with a JC, you already have an airtight block string, or if not airtight, very plus even after you land.

Yep

Same thing Toan. All that counts in the end is if you win or not. Granted I understand what you're saying, but my point was that I think he's got a better shot with Plat, not to say that he's more experienced with Plat or anything

His plat is stronger than his Jin if you ask me. Btw, I've never been in one of those PSN chat rooms or whatever. PSN text chat. But I guess when I sign on PSN I'll get a message or invite from xntrik or something

GGs to Solid_Legend

I'm saying it's the same as ground charge cancels. +1 in this case doesn't mean you have an advantage. If they guess it or see it, they can hit you out of whatever you'd do next, just like ground charge charge cancels.

+1 is obviously not very good since our fastest air normal is 8 frames. Leaves us in roughly the same boat as ground charge canceling. Except that if you are blocked after the charge cancel and land, you're probably going to be at a disadvantage.

I think those numbers are off by usually 2. Charge cancels are like special cancels, which you can cancel on the first active frame, and not after the last active frame. The numbers come down to simply attack level. level 3 is -2, level 4 is +/- 0. Level 2 is -5 I believe and anything else than that is of course rather bad.

Only Jumped once to do the throw, so you can still do another jump for rising sj.c oh wait.. :yaaay:

You guys make it sound like Ragna went from best to worst. He went from S to A. He's still above average. Tsubaki went from B to B. Just as there are eternal high tiers, like Hazama Valk etc, there are eternal low tiers.

For Tsubaki it's probably another 50/50 without the possibility of using DP. Her air moves aren't as good as Tagers, so it's either counter hit by JA or eat air buster. Unless a double jump has some effect, I don't know.

Have you guys seen what happens when they do tech? www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QjsMm3-lJE&t=40s You guys can go to hell

Not as far as I know. The numbers are in the frame data. the important one is 18f minimum recovery. The next important one is that 2d charge cancels are strictly worse than 5d charge cancels (if you just go for minimum length).

I got nothing to do with this. If Moy didn't drop BB for digimon this would've happened weeks ago.

Mucky CS -> CS2 -> CSEX -> CP That's 3. not 1. Also Ragna is still better than Tsubaki in CP so it's not that bad.

I wasn't mean to Daisy at all yesterday. Just want to say that.

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someone play in 20 minutes?