Errol

none of that is any diff in CP, or CS2

speaking of cookie, when are we going to play BB.

lambda backdash is too godly for me.also lambda crouch low profiles tsubaki 5b, as does 2b, and 3c. even in the corner it's harder than other characters without real DPs.

Luigi?

man. have you played toan?

pressuring hazamas on wakeup is a joke. get your meaties down. lambda is hella more annoying to pressure on wakeup

Yes and yes. Tsubaki doesn't have like 12384 awesome players like Jin

ah, right. But every char lost things, even the worst chars. Also I think the simple, strong, popular characters are favored in these lists. If the majority of players get raped by the large numbers of jin players, he's never going to show up as not S. Even if there are other chars with even or good matches against him.. That said Konan's win rate against Jin is 25%. He seems like a beast.

How are ice blades nerfed?

So many good videos of so many Jins. Still no konan!

You guys are awesome.

oh, yeah. that does happen. it's easy enough to react to them being too high and do an aerial ender after 5c>2c. but aerial enders are ass in CSEX so that's a big loss.

set the dummy to tech instantly and you'll understand why combos don't work easier. It's got nothing to do with the timing of the JCC though, whatever it is. I don't think I know any reason why 2cc wouldn't connect after a 5c following an IAD, except for proration, and, just not pressing the button quick enough.

A Ragna->Jin migration guide wouldn't be a bad idea for the wiki either.

I'm with Moy on this one. too much is overkill, the biggest beneficiaries of these listings are newbies. We want to make it as easy as possible for people to dump their characters and pick up Jin.

yeah. old news, but it is cool.

cookie you want to play any now?

22d gives a LOT of charge and lets you convert into a 3cc combo. 5c>6cc>22d>5d>3cc>rc>5c>2cc>623C>whiff>J214D>JD>JC>5C>2CC>JC>JCC>J214D>6C>236236C>5557 Without 3c it's worse than just doing dp whiff straight off. 5c>6cc>22d>5d(.9 charge)>623C>J214D> etc ground ender is 3900 I think. dp whiff straight off is 4.1k I believe I think you're just not delaying long enough. j.236A is consistent.

Yep! I won't take this any further, but yeah it's funny stuff..

DC shows some entertaining play, so I'll allow his tier-whoring. We can't all have started Jin during one of his low tier games.

Me too. Actually I've been playing Jin since CSEX.

generally speaking I think mugen is a tool for combos : 1. only 1 charge, 2. many charges (4/5), 3. midscreen. 5c>6cc>22d is a great starter for a corner combo.

CS2 was bad game design. CSEX Tsubaki is just a bit too weak.

reset? I didn't know you could do that?

Hey keebs, is that nerf separate from the universal system change? Which affects some chars more than others. I knew that Ragna's hell's fang gives abnormal amounts of heat but I didn't know there were any other moves like that. Did they ditch that behavior on stuff?