Seiki

@Star: apparently you haven't seen japan tournament footage where a lot of finals has a bang in there somewhere either it be team or single tournies. Look on jourdal's page or pktazn's page on youtube. Bang players place high consistently and there are quite a few of them. I would know better than any of you that 5B buff and 5D buff along with better proration on web nail makes Bang exceedingly better because these three things help buff the areas he really was weak in CS2. 5D launching allows him to do better midscreen damage on crouching characters along with better oki and corner carry, web nail proration helps him get seals and more damaging combos, and 5B greatly helps him make others respect his poking game which is lackluster in CS2 not to mention if he does hit you with 5B you are eating ~4k+ damage...so yeah. idk where to put him in terms of a letter..maybe A- or B+. At least, he tends to be consistent in his tier position throughout every blazblue's life so he might go up because other characters' metagame becomes stale. Even Dora tweeted that Bang is very strong in Extend so...yeah. looking forward to extend...not looking forward to buying valk and mak again. =/

When I trade in CS for extend at gamestop the price will be about what i would personally pay for just the dlc chars.,relius, and the balance patch so eh it works out. And it's mainly because Bang is going to be soo good in Extend. Arcsys is still an asshole.

Just to be clear. I am not saying that all of these updates is ,by arcsys's intention, meant to become blazblue 2. What I am saying is that if you look at what makes a sequel in general for any kind of game, movie, book, whatever. these updates can sum up to be a "true sequel". and lol, star you consider each and every version of CS to be a blazblue sequel? they were all small add-ons...the biggest one of them all the first CS isn't even considered by the producer to be a sequel...So if we count all the updates we are at Blazblue 1.78322356890213440...not blazblue 5...

In an interview a while ago, Toshimichi Mori, (producer of bazblue), said that Continuum shift 1 was more like Blazblue 1.5. If anything all of these little updates are basically forming blazblue 2 if you consider that a sequel is basically a preservation of the core mechanics with some adjustments and new content but less than the original. So if you add all the dlc characters, relius, and the two or more chars we are probably going to have as dlc for extend all of that combined could be called a sequel.

I've got school and research soo...idk when is it exactly?

I'm loving Nest Kyo very aggressive character. Lol after using shen woo's bionic arm soo much I've become pretty good at using Spencer's bionic arm in umvc3.

Lol Joe has great keepaway and I said this before, Joe is great at keepaway but I try to play him rushdown and I get blown up. Yeah he's viable as a keepaway character but not a rushdown one and...i dont particularly enjoy just running away and spamming voomerangs it gets boring quick so for my playstyle he just doesn't fit. @Kyle: I like Vampire Kyle, but i think like most of the people here we are more interested in some of the more recent games that have come out. Ofcourse I'll be playing it when you come to TN since i do want to learn it.

Lol unlike most chars valk can mix-up bang for free with his wolf dash high low stuff since bang lacks a dp. Ashura costs 50 heat so valk can do free mix-ups when bang doesn't have heat and even when he does ashura's range makes it whiff randomly on valk's odd hitbox especially wolf form. Not to mention wolf standing B rapes all of bang's air approaches and a valk with good control over wolf form can dodge nails pretty well. In my opinion the matchup is 5.5-4.5 valk favor or even.

If you can somehow smuggle Amsterdam's finest Tad, I would love you forever and ever lol. fly safely and don't go to any hostels....cuz...if you've seen the movies...you know why.

Cut down fucking brawl and melee they have other cities for that like memphis or w/e we need a bb scene since we are the only ones and also kof sort of too. umvc3 could be put on the chopping block but personally that gets more entrants than brawl or melee...maybe not brawl...lots of children go to malls too...

Hell yeah KOF>BB. I wish that picture lumin, had the cross on his shirt in white. He's missing that signature part of his look.

Star: sucker for arcsys marketing. smh.

BBCS:Ex : What CS1 should have been in the first place.

i wish i knew about the tourny ahead of time. I'm working from noon all through the afternoon till night. Week before christmas is hell week.

LOL my blazblue disc doesnt work. Now I HAVE to buy extend...T___T

I wish you were with me Star. You would have been charged for speeding instead of me even though im the one driving just cause your black.

Ya'll look at my sig above my avatar. now times it by 2. hell yeah. im out the window.[+] ~~~~~~~~~>\0 ^ ^ ^ window air me (notice stickman look (in be4 cyclops hitler). If anyone wants to get down and play some games today im down. Fucking week has been shit. Probably failed most my exams was guessing on most of them. Got a speeding ticket today for going 50 when i was clearly going 40. Cop lighted his sirens when i was 400 feet from the intersecting street he was on wtf? He was just looking for someone to catch. He had to have angled his radar gun since his car is parked parallel to the intersecting street. He would have tagged a car on the opposite side of the street before me so he probably tagged a car on the opposite lane of me and called me for the ticket cause it looked like it was me. I know not to go 50 there cause both my mom and sister got caught there as well...cops are shady man...do they get comission for the number of people they catch?(sigh)inbe4asianscantdrive

@Star: YOU can because your copy of CS is patched. Just like how capcom patched SSF4 with the AE PATCH and those who chose to buy the ae patch can play with those with a hard copy of AE. You are playing the same game it's just you are patching yours and someone is buying the hard copy.

How are you splitting up the community? All CS2 is on console is a patched CS1 with plat. why cant CSEx be the same and also a standalone disc? Capcom did this with AE and there is no divide. Everyone will be playing the same game I don't get your logic.

Yeah and if you read what i said i agree with standalone disc but also a free balance patch and relius as dlc FOR MOST OF US WHO ARE MAINLY INTERESTED IN THE VERSUS MODE. It's a smarter marketing strategy to appeal to new customers as well as catering to your loyal fan base. You aren't giving any incentive to your loyal fan base to remain loyal if you pull off a stunt like this where you basically bought most of everything that's coming on the disc already in either dlc or the psp version. And also it isn't just for the new players because marketing wise it's best to invest in an area where you are guaranteed revenue. As in focusing your investments on a loyal fan base who is guaranteed to buy the game, and when the loyal fan base are mainly people who are interested in the versus mode what better way to make them buy the game than to include what they want (the additions to versus mode) exclusively in a format where they have to pay 40 dollars to get. You don't see that as kind of dickish? Especially when they offered it in a cheaper and even free format before? If it really wasn't for us. If it was for new players what about us? Why aren't they being understanding for us the loyal base who have already spent money on stuff they are going to resell to us? Oh yeah because they just care about making money. Your bias is blinding you Star. Look at it objectively imagine it as something else not your beloved underaged blonde bitch.

oh and by the way if each of the umvc3 chars were dlc for the same price as arcsys does it would be: $60-$72 but...it was $40...

You don't need placeholders to add new content you can add placeholders as a patch. Most games designed now adays come with a lot of modifiable parts in the coding so they can go in and do whatever they want in the future. Yeah from the marketing standpoint its great to make a standalone. Get the suckers who already bought valk mak and plat to buy them again with the gimmick of saying 40 more dollars is worth a few storylines some of which were already in CS2 for psp and oh yeah abyss mode which was already in the psp version. AND HONESTLY I MEAN HONESTLY how long do you actually play those modes. really like you are going to play mars mode and abyss mode...What pisses me off the most is that the core aspect and the only reason why most of us are buying it is for the balance changes. That is ultimately what we want out of this not some gimmicky game types that you'll sit and play for 5mins. but its worth 40 dollars right? Atleast capcom gave the option of buying the hard disk or choosing to buy the dlc. Arcsys could choose to do both. THey could have made the balance patch a free patch (which isn't a problem since they did this before) and relius as payed dlc for those who already purchased valk mak and plat and only care for the versus aspect of bb and they could have made a stand alone disc for people who are new to the series. You cannot argue that it would be too much to do both because capcom did it. They are hurting their loyal consumer base by making them buy valk mak and plat again especially when a large part of the consumer base mainly play bb for the versus mode NOT for the subpar storyline that could be found in any generic jap rpg. They bundle it in a package and add in those gimmicky game modes so they can justify "hey it's not just reselling dlc and a patch we used to release as free content. here we added modified gametypes (from the psp) that you will spend an hour playing at the most but hey it's worth the extra 20 dollars??" I guess it's how much you feel your 40 dollars is worth to you. From judging based purely on the kind of content they are giving and the price. All they did was take stuff they had and added salt and pepper. It's just a real dickish way of charging us for the patch when they could have done both a free patch and a hard copy of the disc with all the dlc. I mean if all you wanted was the dlc chars and the balance patch it would be: balance patch is free cause they did that for cs2, and each dlc char is around 5-6 dollars so 24 dollars total. If 16 dollars is worth it to you for some additional stupid game modes and a few more generic jap rpg storylines thats cool i guess. I'm surprised you don't find this worse than capcom chandler. Maybe it's your bias, but atleast with AE i got 4 chars new to the series and a balance patch and it was 15 dollars. And with UMVC3 i get 12 new chars a balance patch, better netcoding, and heroes and heralds mode which hasn't existed in previous iterations unlike abyss and mars mode.

40 dollars isnt worth the added storylines and oh yeah buying valk makoto and platinum AGAIN. p.s. the balance changes were free for CS2 why couldn't they just make the new content DLC? God I'm going to cringe when I hand the cashier my 40 dollars. Atleast ultimate came with 12 new characters and im not buying any of them again. Such bullshit. YEAH I SAID IT CHANDLER! EVEN CAPCOM ISN'T THAT EVIL!...

Now someone doesn't have an excuse to not enter tournaments. *CoughStarcough*

I hate being crammed in the arcade and would prefer a bigger venue. @Star: I don't think Milln is saying WE are switching to ps3's but that major tournies DO so if you plan to go to a major be ready to play on either a 360 OR ps3.