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That's not what he said at all. I already posted the link on this page to him answering the question. I guess you missed it so here it is again "3/1/14 - SCR 2014 - BlazBlue: Chronophantasma - Mori Interview" http://www.twitch.tv...462026?t=12m53s

If you look at the title of the interview you would see that it was the month that CP1 was released in America way before CP2 was announced. i guess i should have put the name in the post "3/1/14 - SCR 2014 - BlazBlue: Chronophantasma - Mori Interview" http://www.twitch.tv/jyosua/b/507462026?t=12m53s

No one said PS4 only. Edit: never mind i didn't notice Volt saying that

Here you can listen to the part of the interview where he is specifically asked about porting BlazBlue: Chronophantasma to the PS4. http://www.twitch.tv/jyosua/b/507462026?t=12m53s

Incase you didn't see these i post them again. ODR GETB finish vs Ragna https://www.youtube....outu.be&t=4m36s ODR GETB finish vs Celica https://www.youtube....outu.be&t=3m10s And like others have said CP2 will definitely be a full disc release probably with a new name. There most likely going to add more stuff for the console version and more characters with a 6 month wait after arcade version like usual. Remember its also going to be released on the PS4. When they asked Mori if he was going to port BBCP to PS4 he said yes but an upgraded version instead with some new modes because a straight port would be boring. So the PS4 version of CP2 will probably also have exclusive stuff that wouldn't be possible to do on the PS3 version of the game as an incentive to buy it over the ps3 version. In one interview he talked about the PS4 being able to store and run 4 separate characters on the screen at once so i hope for PS4 version he adds a Tag Team Mode. For both versions of the game i hope he adds Abyss mode characters playable in vs and online just like unlimited charachters.

From what i remember Tager can sledge through all of Amanes drills not just hariken.

Tager players are slowly learning more stuff. Every wallbounce 5D normal hit is a guaranteed minimun 3496 dmg combo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSi2f0a8Ng&feature=youtu.be&t=18m01s Thanks to the many proration buffs we get good damage from gadget RC and buster combos: Adriver RC combo 4015 damage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSi2f0a8Ng&feature=youtu.be&t=24m39s Midscreen Bdriver spark combo 4649 dmg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSi2f0a8Ng&feature=youtu.be&t=11m46s AC is a great set up now without magnetism http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSi2f0a8Ng&feature=youtu.be&t=5m25s Bdriver tech trap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSi2f0a8Ng&feature=youtu.be&t=14m39s Science is very welcome!

Thanks! i just cant wait until some actual Tager combo videos come out. Then we will finally get to see some really great videos after they finish adjusting and start to get his stuff down.

B Sledge Normal Hit is +8(9?) and now can be connected with 5A or 2B Easier to combo from on air hit because aerial hit causes opponent to float high. Seems to go through bursts P2 changed from: 92 -> 89 Frame advantage: +1 -> -2 Here is example of using normal hit Bsledge to start a combo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wta4DtFTrhM&index=3&list=PLLNrKpk47-5OKaboCTIXxqop_fSv9uZRV&t=41m00s A couple Normal hit Bsledge combos from Grandias twitter https://twitter.com/hashtag/cp2%E3%83%86%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC?f=realtime&src=hash Magged Midscreen Bsledge,5A,5B,5C,6A,3C,ACwhiff,5C,6A,2C,AC,5D,gadget 3200dmg 27heat Bsledge,5A,5B,3CACwhiff,6A,6C,JD,5B,5C,6A,2C,AC,DSpark,MTW,TB 4891dmg; in OD 5175 dmg Stuff from the new videos i just posted in the video thread http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9616-cp-20-iron-tager-video-thread/?p=854978 In the loketest notes it said Voltec cancel 720 was made easier to do. This guy makes it look easier Voltec cancel 720 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=4m57s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=9m31s Showing some of tagers new combo routes i love this combo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=1h6m40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=17m40s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=33m52s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=49m47s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e98sEB951M&list=PLLNrKpk47-5OKaboCTIXxqop_fSv9uZRV&index=4&t=1h14m41s Edit: i forgot to include this nice Hammer counter hit combo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=19m03s Showing new and differnt ways we can start midscreen combos with JD with or without counter hit on airbourne or grounded oppenents Off counter hits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wta4DtFTrhM&index=3&list=PLLNrKpk47-5OKaboCTIXxqop_fSv9uZRV&t=45m11s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wta4DtFTrhM&index=3&list=PLLNrKpk47-5OKaboCTIXxqop_fSv9uZRV&t=51m04s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdZKX1nfO5o&feature=youtu.be&t=17m45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=20m10s Non counter hits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqiMHvw_OzY&t=11m50s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha9vyNbd9GA&list=UUrGNVruyuifBK_GeeWN2Rgw&index=7&t=1m17s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=1h4m13s jC counter hits starter into ground combos (are these possible in CP1?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e98sEB951M&list=PLLNrKpk47-5OKaboCTIXxqop_fSv9uZRV&index=4&t=1h52m00s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e98sEB951M&list=PLLNrKpk47-5OKaboCTIXxqop_fSv9uZRV&index=4&t=1h59m9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdZKX1nfO5o&feature=youtu.be&t=5m36s

The 2nd post of this thread has been once again updated with newest most complete translated list of currently known CP2 Tager changes with new stuff not before known or discussed. Thanks to SoWL and Argent Zero for translations. No need to scroll to the top of this page just use shortcut link to 2nd post lol http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9615-cp-20-iron-tager-gameplay-discussion/#entry854951 According to these top players early opinions on Tager he is so far regarded as "A-tier" and "Looks Strong" even though from videos Tager players still haven't really got him down very much yet. oh your right. i hadn't played the game in so long i forgot it did. fixed

Bravo!! good sir, Bravo!! http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1233928590_citizen%20kane%20clapping.gif

NO! Your tier list was CRAP because it didn't list Tager as Looks Strong or A-tier !!! I say its about time! He was still "good" in CP1 just not A-tier good. Now he it looks like he might actually be A-tier good in CP2. . Yes Its actually true that he has, and its my greatest wish that's what he will become!

well that's very disappointing ........

So did this magazine actually come out or were you mistaken?

That was truly beautiful!

This was the stupidest argument i ever heard and i told you guys it wasn't going to happen. So Watch it and Weep! ODR GETB finish vs Ragna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM-jUCZ6rCY&feature=youtu.be&t=4m36s ODR GETB finish vs Celica https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWNlnue-lo&feature=youtu.be&t=3m10s ODR GETB finish vs Hakumen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CroMcH5zKxA&feature=youtu.be&t=9m40s

Hey is anyone using this BBCP2 combo app for iphone? What does it do? and is there an english or android version? https://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/konbo-zhang-for-bbcp/id877295879?mt=8 Ok thanks alot!

This posting appears to have even more updated information for Tager. Please translate this also if its not too much trouble. Thank you 前作からの変更点まとめ D系統：ヒット時持続フレームが消滅し硬直フレームに移行するように？(2D密着ヒットさせるとよくわかる、人形やゲオルグを殴っても前回までのような引き寄せ増加無し、持続当てでも硬直差同じ) OD中のD系統のやられが通常時と同じに、乗算一律72だったのが技毎に違うように(よくなってる) 磁力付与時間：5D、2D、JD→約5秒　4D→約3秒　スパークボルト、ガジェットフィンガー→約8秒　ODGETB→約15秒 5B：空中ノーマルヒット時の受身不能時間低下(20→2Bと同じ17？、攻撃レベル通りになった模様) 5D：乗算72→84、壁バウンド、中央密着でスライドダウン、端で壁張り付き OD中5D：上中段ガードポイント追加 2C：ヒット時浮き高く、ch時テイガーの向いている方向に飛ぶように 2D：乗算72→84、移動距離(持続も？)上昇、ガードさせて＋2、スライドダウンの挙動変化 OD中2D：上下段ガードポイント追加 6A：空中ヒット時テイガー側にスライドダウン 最大タメ6A：補正変わってる 6B：始動80→90、乗算92→89、ダメージ960→520、発生24→15、中段→上段、足属性無敵追加(1Fからではない)、強制しゃがみ食らい削除、空中ヒット時強制ダウン 6C：始動85→100、乗算92→84、同技補正削除、地上ヒットでも浮くように、浮き高く、空中受身不能時間低下 4D：乗算72→89、引き寄せ強化、硬直短く、ガードさせて－2→－1？、足元の攻撃判定削除、ch時地上でも空中でも壁バウンドに OD中4D：上段ガードポイント追加 JB：持続増加(硬直も？)、空中受身不能時間低下、空中ch時バウンドするように JC：空中受身不能時間低下 JD：乗算72→92、空中ヒット時の挙動変化 OD中JD：上中段ガードポイント追加 通常投げ：ダメ1500→1400、空振り時硬直増加 Aドラ：乗算15→60 Bドラ：乗算15→60、ダメ3500→3000、ヒット時吹き飛ぶように Cドラ：乗算15→60、ダメ2800→2700 コレダー：乗算80→72、ダメージ1000(1668)→1350(2250)に、ヒット時の挙動変化 Aスレ：ヒット時の浮き低く、画面端で壁張り付き Bスレ：乗算92→89、ガードさせて＋1→－2、ノーマルヒット時＋8(9?)になり5Aもしくは2Aが繋がるように、空中ヒット時高く浮くように スレ追加：乗算85→90、弾ガードポイント削除、上中段ガードポイント追加、バーストも耐える、ヒット時強制ダウン、コンボ時間N→F スパーク：コンボ時間N→F ガジェ：乗算60→80 ホイール：乗算よくなった(テラブレに補正が残るように)、引き寄せ変化(磁力無し時裏側にあたると最終段スカったり)、緊急受身可能に テラブレ：ヒット時壁張り付き、持続増加？

Thanks so much for the translation!

Could someone please translate this list of final version CP2 changes for me please thank you! from https://www.evernote.com/shard/s519/sh/9e90e86c-53b1-45a5-b238-70754a0e411a/c10afa79703e430fa96656a4891d601c BBCP2稼動しましたので現時点で拾えた情報やコンボを簡単にまとめていきます。 間違いやコンボ安かったりしたらメンゴ 【ver1.1からの変更点】 【通常技】 ・5A：コンボ時間伸びた？ ・5B>2Bのガトリングが回数制限(5B>2B>5B>×2B) ・5D：当てて中央でも壁バン。端は張り付き。高めで当てるとBSで拾えたりコレダーでも吸える。ガードされた時は以前より離れる。 ・6A：空中ヒットで手前にスライドダウン ・6B：速くなったが中段じゃない。 ・6C：通常ヒットでもバウンド(同技消えた？) ・2C：通常ヒットで少し後ろに飛ばす。カウンターで手前に飛ばす。また以前より飛ぶようになったのでAスレ繋がらないらしい。 ・2D：進む距離が増えたがカウンターしてもコンボしづらくなった ・4D：端壁バン削除。ただしカウンターで壁バン。通常はあまり吹っ飛ばない。〆で使うのもあり。 ・JB：受け身不能時間短縮。カウンターでバウンド。 ・JD：以前程吹っ飛ばないのでコンボに行けそう。 ・D系：補正ゆるくなった。またOD中ガードポイント 【必殺技】 ・A,Cドラ：補正ゆるく。また姫に5B入らなくなってるらしい。ガジェrcから伸びるようです。 ・Bドラ：ジャヨクみたいに落ちてくる。中央追撃は磁力時5Dかスパーク。端は追撃容易らしい。補正もゆるい。また空かし時の隙が減少。 ・Aスレ：以前より吹っ飛ばなくなったので3C>Aスレ>5Aからのエリアルが出来なくなった。端では壁貼り付け。またバーストに耐えるらしい ・Bスレ：補正キツく。ただ以前より吹っ飛ぶのでコンボはしやすくなった。こちらもバーストに耐えるらしい。 ・追加ハンマー：上中段ハイパーアーマー。ただ以前のようには跳ねないで叩き付けダウン。カウンターしたら5Bで拾える。こちらもバースト耐える。 ・コレダー：補正キツく、飛びが低く6C、2Dとかでは拾えない。5Dやガジェ、スパーク繋がる。 ・ガジェ：補正ゆるくなり、rcからコンボ伸びやすくなった。 ・スパーク：コンボ時間か補正減った？ 【DD】 ・ホイール：以前よりロックしない？(後ろだと最終段スカるとか)また相手が地面に付いたらすぐ復帰。 ・テラブレイク：ホイールの変更により当て方が前より難しくなった。中央は壁バン。端は張り付き。

EDIT#1 : i updated my first post with full list of translated CP2 Tager changes Of course we dont know yet for sure but the general consensus was that it did look like it had faster startup, probably at least the same as current 6B now. We should know everything this weekend if this magazine does come out. EDIT#2 : supposedly the magazine came out and disappointingly only contained basic information. Edit#3: More huge damage off of 6C overhead. I just saw this cool combo from Jbbs. We can finally do really good combos after TerraBreak like i wanted to before. Midscreen non-magnetic force 6C>OD>MTW>TB> 5B>5C>5D >Gadget Whiff> 5C>6A>2C> AC> Horizontal spark>GP 7872 damage http://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/game/45148/1407882628/856 probably when optimized it can break 8k ill try to post all of the good new Tager match videos tomarrow

Your welcome i love posting videos that show Tager doing new stuff, unfortunately there hasn't been anymore decent videos of Tager doing anything lately. Also I love the change to 6B. its not like tager no longer has an overhead. 6C was made better and faster to compensate for the change to 6B. Watching every one of of CP2 Tager's videos so far i see 6C being used in block strings and catching people alot more than i ever remember 6B being used. Heres an example from twitter of the Damage they are getting off of 6C overhead starter. https://twitter.com/hashtag/cp2%E3%83%86%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC?f=realtime&src=hash non fatal, midscreen, no mag, with Meter ６C＞delay JD＞5C>6A>2C＞Asledge＞5C>6A>3C＞ACwhiff＞6A＞Bsledge＞6A>6C＞AC＞Dspark＞OD＞MW>TB＞6B>6B>GF　7458 damage non fatal, midscreen, no mag, Meterless 6C>J2C>5B>5C>5D>Gadget whiff>5C>Asledge>5B>5C>6A>3C>ACwhiff>5C>6A>2C>AC>Gadget 5215 damage

Finally we get to see new and improved Voltec Hammer. it should have been like this in the first place http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIpTcO4QvYg&feature=youtu.be&t=5m20s Another example showing magnetized midscreen AC>5D>AC>5D 2927dmg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0jzabX6A8Y&feature=youtu.be&t=6m32s Thats the same question i asked earlier, seemed like it to me also from watching all the videos. i hope its true. Can anyone tell from looking at this part? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_ZEpLdtwU&index=2&list=UUrGNVruyuifBK_GeeWN2Rgw&t=27m08s Ragna does GCOD against Tagers 6A causing the following 3C to whiff, but Tager still recovers fast enough to block Ragnas 5B.

I think this answers your question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO_ZEpLdtwU&index=2&list=UUrGNVruyuifBK_GeeWN2Rgw&t=27m00s and it seems we can still do this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GVx6XCSFHI&feature=youtu.be&t=3m33s We can also start a ground combo off of air hit jD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha9vyNbd9GA&list=UUrGNVruyuifBK_GeeWN2Rgw&index=7&t=1m17s (i didnt post this Tagers videos because really sucks and doenst show much) Im loving CP2 Tager also. The more we see the better he gets. A couple months from now we they lean his good stuff everyone here saying CP2 Tager sucks compared to CP1 will be changing their tune. Later i will post combo examples they have discovered showing his new combo routes.

New videos CP2 Tager Videos Barrel(Tager) vs ragna,jin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcfem2G2ufc&feature=youtu.be&t=34m38s Barrel (Tager)vs ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcfem2G2ufc&feature=youtu.be&t=1h00m44s Barell (Tager) VS Ryuusei (Carl) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiykyZWeqMQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1h46m35s Barrel (Tager) vs ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzoljeaDYZw&feature=youtu.be&t=9m11s Under (Tager) vs Hazama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxcs6xrzhQU&feature=youtu.be&t=5m51s Under (Tager) vs noel,arakune,ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JBytnySNYc&feature=youtu.be&t=3m19s Under (Tager) vs Ragna http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiykyZWeqMQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1h34m46s Tiku (Tager) vs Azreal, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5uhiM3iSo&feature=youtu.be&t=7m41s Tiku (Tager)vs Nu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5uhiM3iSo&feature=youtu.be&t=13m17s You can clearly see them trying to figure out the many new combo routes Update 1 : More New Videos!! Out of all the tons of new tager videos that came out since i posted those above, these are the only ones worth posting that shows decent play of people actually learning stuff. All the others are just tagers not knowing what to do since all his combos changed. Sadi has gotten so much better now and Akizuki is back! Azrael VS Sadi (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=16m44s Hakumen VS ZEL (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=32m00s V-13 VS Sadi (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=49m15s Bullet VS Sadi (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=1h3m10s Noel VS Sadi (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CH8Xyr9_h0&feature=youtu.be&t=1h15m10s Chaos(Tager) VS Kagura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=3m28s Chaos(Tager) vs Litchi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=6m15s Akizuki (Tager) vs NU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74j2IV8bPy0&t=17m29s Update 2: Under (Tager) vs Platinum http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdSi2f0a8Ng&feature=youtu.be Update 3: hēta (Mu-12) VS ZEL (tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nUVktEC9J8&feature=youtu.be&t=7m38s Yamashiro (tager)　VS nao (valkenhayn) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxQvadPqaVA&feature=youtu.be Yamanashi (Tager) vs kagura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0k2icVtNI4&feature=youtu.be&t=30m23s Osaka (Litchi) VS Yamanashi (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0k2icVtNI4&feature=youtu.be&t=47m30s Hara (Ragna) VS Barell (Tager) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0k2icVtNI4&feature=youtu.be&t=1h25m06s TEAM GETS OCV'D grants (Tager) VS sharu (v-13), mabukapu (Relius), dango (Noel) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tyWKSW8COY&feature=youtu.be&t=6m55s grants (Tager) VS koreru (Izayoi) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbtvMvFVUFM&feature=youtu.be&t=17m48s Charin-3y3s VS jin, tsubaki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl8isQ0xNLI&feature=youtu.be&t=44m40s Charin-3y3s VS Rachel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl8isQ0xNLI&feature=youtu.be&t=59m52s *MUST WATCH* ZEL or Chaos VS Kara D (Hakumen) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ULXRPY_6Q0&feature=youtu.be Update 4: Great tager gameplay all around Hage (Tager) VS Mio (Litchi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkRbDVEIjGQ&feature=youtu.be UNDER (tager) VS jūroku cha (izayoi) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-Vu6GAZnV4&feature=youtu.be Zel (TG) VS Kobayashi (LI), Ema (KO) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIIjgEk0_U4&feature=youtu.be&t=2m30s Zel (TG) VS Saki (KO) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZOV8GBWIE&feature=youtu.be&t=3m55s Mikeneko (Tager) VS Igaruku (Tager) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4JI0_tewVo&feature=youtu.be&t=7m00s Iyokan (Λ) VS Kuroshiro (Tager) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4JI0_tewVo&feature=youtu.be&t=9m40s Igaruku (Tager) VS Kuroshiro (Tager) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiJJtwJtIb8&feature=youtu.be&t=8m31s Igaruku (Tager) VS Kasama (Arakune),Tonkichi (Jin) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMmhP5JAOLk&feature=youtu.be&t=2m39s