Rishtopher

What? I hope we see some new Carl stuff today, I'm crazy impatient right now >:|

YES! Thanks for the news! I can't wait to see it n_______________n I wonder if he'll have one with Tsubaki/Haz? Like, since Tsubaki seems to know something about him and Haz, since well, they're working together. Also, Arakune, he's the third Architect of Sin right? Though I can't imagine Relius having much to say besides "how pitiful" or something.

So any word on whether or not Relius has any cool special battle intros? I assume that he has one with Carl right? I was hoping for them to up the epicness of the intros à la Sol x Ky or Ragna x Jin, etc.

I think he means that it's become slightly less useful because it used to force stand KD opponents but now that it bounces them (potentially away from Carl), it's not as useful in oki game? I'm not sure, I could be wrong lol. Also, are we gonna bother to make a new CSX thread? I mean for new people that come after CSX comes out? There's not many of us though, so I dunno if we should bother right now..

Uhhh, I honestly can't tell if the Japanese CSX tier list thread is a joke... is Carl really D tier?? Say it ain't so! I'm still maining him, but it makes me sad to see this EDIT: How is it that there's a tier list on the first day? Is this a normal occurrence? Also, nevermind, this has to be a joke because of mspaint lol. Sorry for wasting your time

lol'd. SO hard xD

lol if he was standing on a surf board, his animation would look very appropriate xD

Does anyone know what he says yet?

lol Haz just looks like he's bored. I like his astral against himself, it's like he's looking forward to the experiments on his own body loool

Omg K, ONLY playing in that Carl palette :P

Here you go dude :D "Luck is a fickle goddess. (The full form of the phrase is Levis est fortuna: cito reposcit, quod dedit, "Luck is a fickle goddess: she quickly takes back what she gave." This is another one of the sayings attributed to Publilius Syrus.)" And since I'm a very amateur Latin enthusiast, I'll try and break it down too! Levis = light, thin, trivial, trifling, slight; gentle; fickle est= is fortuna= fortune (fortune is often personified as a woman, think like "father time", "Lady Luck") id= it cito= move, set in motion; excite/rouse/stir up; urge on; summon/muster/call up (I guess in this case, it's synonymous with "excitedly"?) reposcit= demand back quod=what dedit= give/gave I had to look up levis and cito, but the rest I got. Just goes to show what one Latin class and a good teacher can get you :P [source] EDIT: Wanted to make this post Carl-relevant so as not to derail the thread; Anyone else thing that the circus is an odd stage for Carl? Like, it's not even in his story mode... I thought the Kagutsuchi night stage was a bitter fit. Also his stage proverb is kinda lame. "Two wrongs don't make a right", they could've at least jazz'd it up with a little Latin imo... Also, "He that hurts another, hurts himself" just sounds less preschool to me.

Oh man, I almost forgot about this! I'm actually really happy that this'll work since I always forget that it doesn't in CS2 and I get punished for it lol Daisuke won't let us down Have to say that I did like Valk's theme but, I agree that it didn't really stand out against the other already-metal-enough tracks lol. I'm actually wondering if the Carl vs Relius theme will be all classy or like really violent, almost metal? I'm hoping that it's not the latter of course but, given the relationship between them, I could see it being that way. Arrrrg, 3 more days and the knowledge will be mine!! Plus I have a 5 day weekend this week so I'll be watching videos extensively

Hehe, thanks for starting the conversation :P That's starting the middle of next week right? I'm excited to see some Carl because I want to know if his combos/loops are just as rinse & repeat as CS2. I thought those loops were cool, but I didn't like how they were all the same, I want some variety, can't wait :D Also I can't wait til someone rips that Carl vs Relius theme!

Omg I'm hype! Does it say what it's called? I can't read Japanese I'm so hype to see this match up play out, only one week left >:D

One thing I have to ask about Ignis is does she work the same as Ada when it comes to inputs? Like how Ada works on D release rather than on press?

I'd hardly call it early dude. Relius is gonna be out in like a week, we're all gonna be talking about him anyway.

lol sorry, it's that I'm not good at getting sarcasm and jokes online. My mind is too literal lol. He comes out in a week though right? I'm really excited for all the vids we're gonna be getting :D EDIT: We also need a Relius ball so I can add it to my sig when I start subbing him lol

Wait, do we know if he's actually op? Sorry I can't tell if you were only joking lol Same exact reaction lol. I was like "Dustloop...has changed...OH SNAP! Relius subforum!?" :U

Thank you guys so much! <3 I'm gonna try and put your advice to good use >:D Now all I have to do is get used to Bang's air-to-low and cross up bumpers and I should be all set n__n

Thanks for the info Sahgren, and sorry, I didn't mean to stray off topic. One final question about this matchup: Is Bang's 2D pretty much safe on any [w]#C approach? Even when I can bait it, my friend seems to be able to 2D again and get me. I think it might be that it's either laggy or I'm too slow (or both), but it's hard to get in any other way. When I play defensively, I can't find a good break in Bang's blockstrings to get out of pressure. Especially in the corner. I have no idea what to do when Bang's got me there since I'm pretty much free to all of his attacks if I try to [w]#C or [w]66D away. Is my only option CA or burst? Again, I just started Valk, so it may be that I just suck, but I honestly have no idea what do to. Also is there anything at all that can be done when he's got FRKZ, or is the match pretty much over? EDIT: THAT is my last question, sorry lol.

LOL, this is the best thing I've read all day xD The magic thing almost made me fall off my chair xD Speaking of magic actually, the cape was a nice factor too, he DOES look like a magician! I think Carl should get some kind of magic-y looking projectile attack for himself lol. He's getting "trained" by Bang, so it could be all cool and flashy. Violin strings shoot out from his sleeves and he yells "Tenuto!" or something and it holds the opponent in place that can be followed up by one of Ada's attacks lol /fanfic I actually agree with this. I honestly don't remember CS1 Carl that well, but the reason I actually stuck with Carl is because I thought the whole dual character thing (in equal measures) was cool. It was rhythmic, which I thought fit so well. I'm not a fan of CS2's emphasis on solo Carl, but that might change once I get better lol.

Thanks Sahgren, I appreciate it! I'll try that out tonight and see what I can do. I've been watching a lot of valk vids and trying to mimic their movements, it's taking a little getting used to. Also, I've taken to using 2C as an anti air along with 6A to stop his approaches since I keep reading that Valk can do huge damage off of it. Is 2C a viable option as AA, or should I stick with trying to confirm into that combo you posted off of 6A?

Thank you for being one of the only people I know for not giving into to fanservice characters lol. That's why Tsubaki is my favourite female character in the game. She's the only one noted for her character and not outward appearance lol. Also, I completely forgot about Carl's glasses. They are definitely a plus :P Also(x2), I've been meaning to ask how people play their Carl and what generally works best with most matchups/players. I tend to zone and try to get them to come to me so I can attack, but I've seen people play really aggressive, really good Carl's. I don't know how to zone admittedly (still practicing Rachel zoning) and whenever I jump in I get murdered. Having trouble dealing with Ragna/Bang rushdown and I need to think of how to play it safe. Hazama is annoying too, but I honestly have the hardest time fighting Litchi since her staff goes right through Ada and hits me if i get too close. I considered putting this in the matchups subforum, but I'm just looking for general strategies.

So I started learning Valk a few days ago, and my friend plays a pretty decent Bang, I can't get anywhere near him. The nails murder me, like he waits til I get in close with wolf and he gets me with poison nails all the time. Then the guard points get me or I can't get in close enough to punish if he misses. If I try to bait them with wolf (for example with [w]7C or [w]4C) I still get hit cuz Valk is so fast lol. Is there any tips on how to get in? Like generally, I can 6A his jump ins, but I can't confirm to anything. What's a good follow up if I get him on a 6A CH in human form?

This made me lol. Just the implication that Carl's mom is a pokémon xD I chose Carl for more shallow reasons I guess. I used to play Ragna in CT, but he kinda felt like Win Mode to me at the time (I didn't have online, so I only got to play other scrubs like me lol). I heard Carl was hard and decided I'd learn him. Also, I make a point to try and learn anyone with a suit/top hat. Plus he happens to be generally well mannered and I like his personality. Agreed! It's my favourite theme in the game lol. Admittedly, I feel like if you're not an AMAZING Carl, there's a huge stigma attached to him. Like I'll play randos online and when I enter a room with voice chat I can hear people going "Oh Carl main!? LOL!" Then if I lose, I get called a scrub, if I win, people ragequit. It's not like I really care that much but admittedly, it gets annoying. It doesn't help that I generally do better with my subs than with Carl >__>. This has only been my personal experience though, and like I said before, I'm not very good. About switching to Relius main, I actually thought this would be the case with a lot of Carl users (myself included). Though I'm too stubborn to abandon Carl, even if he somehow went to Tager Tier, I'd still main him (it also helps that I only play for a hobby and not money at tourneys though lol). I do plan on making Relius my main sub though. Just cuz the thought is cool.