Elochai

P4U2's 236236A is the same as 236236A in P4U, but there is no blue health (and thusly, no health regen). 236236B/AB starts up 6f slower than A, and B/AB both have considerable recovery. The invul on any version of Mind Charge isn't even that good, all things considered.

3/12 TRF: Teddie vs. Setora (EL) Setora (EL) vs. S.Narukami Setora (EL) vs. Shabrys

I think the DP timing point is a valid argument. It seems that the catch is fast, though I cannot eyeball it exactly (despite the fact that you can replay YT videos at 1/4th speed). I would almost wager that from when Nonono hit jB, he was caught within 1f, but I cannot say for certain. This is why I brought up OSing, though I do not think that there are any OSes that deal with guardpoint.

Izayoi = イザヨイ Kokonoe = ココノエ

I will be at Next Level on Saturday. Let's mash!

So 5B is worse on whiff? Why is that a thing? It got like 20 or so additional frames of recovery. If you whiff, I guess you die, harder. Rip 5D, too (though the P2 is nice, kinda wonder what combos we can do). Kinda odd that jD got faster, but it has lower range anyway. Does Randomizer have 0f start up, or is it just not listed in the mook? Not glad that my speculation about stuff > dp beating this move is true. Wonder if you can just OS and hit a super or something. Also, lol at 5C (2) jump cancel. That's really weird to me (is this the same as hop cancel?). I guess we'll be going for 5C > jc jB > jA > jC > stuff . Generally speaking, I'm kinda...surprised? Part of me wants to ask "why?" at a bunch of this stuff. I mean, at least we have awakening specials? They look nice. Edit: forgot to mention that 2C applies its buff even on block. That's kinda cool.

It's silly in neutral too. I think the game before last, I got 2D and you DPed me for it. I actually input 3BD lol. But we should play again sometime, you're really strong! I just got salty really fast haha.

Trying to break my Project Diva F addiction. Let's mash! GGs Flux. When's new stick.

222CD doesn't kill only if the opponent returns to neutral iirc (like if Naoto does 236236A OMC > nothing, then 222CD wouldn't work). Dunno if it got changed. I have some ideas for Randomizer. I think something like 2C > 236 > [6]4A > ]B[ seems plausible; to catch reversals and stuff on wakeup + allowing Liz to be totally safe. No idea if this would actually work though.

Randomizer counters projectiles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdJF_BLHDXs#t=3541 I guess we can just Randomizer missile attempts for free? I wonder if Aigis would still be in recovery.

A-Cho 3on3 3/9: Yukari vs. Elizabeth

Tier lists, in some sense, just compare MUs between characters. Characters at the top have more advantageous MUs than those at the bottom. Therefore, it can be argued that those at the top are better characters since they can beat more of the cast than other characters.

Guess I finally have a place to ask this lol: Does air turn jC travel farther than regular jC? I notice that Okusan does this sometimes (or maybe he's just used to doing Liz air turn jD ).

Pandora Launcher has projectile invul on start up in P4U2, which is why that happened. Dunno why it was added to the game either. Btw, Chie can low profile 236A.

Well, this isn't limited to you, there're 3 (4? dunno about Dazardz) Liz players who also play Aki: you, me, and Omnix. I still stand by the opinion I gave in the main thread though. Kinda off-topic, but did you only wanna play him because he hasn't changed much? Don't see why you wouldn't use jB btw. jB is only second to 2B lol.

B-but... I wanna be among the frame data club too ! (it's alright, I can wait lol) I'm actually very curious as to what habits you could've picked up while playing Elizabeth. Personally, I like to mash 2B. It doesn't really carry over to when I play Akihiko though (wherein I like to do as many 6ABs as possible). Secondly, I'm also curious as to why all these Elizabeth players sub Akihiko.

The last sentence in this post is really good (this post as a whole, is good anyway).

As far as Gamestop goes, yes. http://www.gamestop.com/ps3/games/blazblue-chrono-phantasma/113255#bonusFeatures

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It's been too long I guess. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?19045-Adamek-vs-Glazkov-Live-Stream&p=1613087&viewfull=1#post1613087 http://www.dustloop.com/forums/member.php?36269-abclive too many spam threads to post aaaaaaaah

TRF 3/5: Kouzezka (EL) vs. Kai-san (YK) Negeto(?) (TD) vs. Kouzezka (EL) (don't watch after round 2) Kouzezka (EL) vs. Arian (AI) TRF 3/7: Naoto vs. Setora (EL) Setora (EL) vs. Yukiko

3/14 acho 3on3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzOj2YE29Kg

We are not Paul . With that being said, I'm not switching mains, ever. Bace is willing to try Liz before he switches too. While tech is certainly a pressing issue, if Liz can win with her current set of tools, I'm fine with that. Plus, we also have to keep in mind that there's a lot of stuff we're not seeing, so there might be really good tech that we're unaware of. After all, our only knowledge of this character is based off of what's recorded and on YouTube/Niconico.

GGs Zeron. Having stick trouble again it seems: for example, when you did the MG super during the last round, I wanted to do 2B > j.C, but the 2B never came out, so I got 2C instead (where j.C would've been). Same thing for all those random super jumps. RIP lol. Seems like you're slowly figuring out how to fight Liz, though.

I am in Zeron's lobby. Send him/me a message, and I guess we can make a new room.