Diveman

It's fine I can understand that, it confuses me since I do 5b3d then j.a and it works but I have trouble doing j.a3d. Any reason to why is that better than 5b3d?

what's the correct way of doing instant overhead j.A? I tried doing 5B3D then j.A or should I 5B j.A3D?

got it, thanks.

Did they change 6A? I swear I saw it launching grounded opponents and now it doesn't

I still don't know what the 2 Lotus specials do, I remember asking some time ago and still didn't understand :/

Been trying to learn Carl since CS2 lol but never actually had the time to do it until now. I checked the combo thread and watched some videos but, as you said since he has so many routes I feel there's too much info to digest (and I feel some of them I'm not gonna use that often) so I was wondering if you could help me out and tell me where should I start with this character. Thanks a lot.

Well imo is not necessarily a bad thing that he has the same oki everytime, as long as it remains dominant and locks wakeup options I don't see it's a bad thing, of course I know you didn't say that. I think, for now, more like trying to think too hard on new oki options; best course is to get used to his already existing ones find more mixups from that same oki and from there move on to new stuff.

That match vs FAB I remember I saw in a vid, an I-no doing a meterless followup to HCL but it was like dash HCL into 5P etc anyone knows how that combo goes? I can't remember

Has anyone figured out Chaos yet? I'm tired of seeing every chaos player get bodied lol

Is there anywhere I can see Yukari's new info? the current google doc has something but it's untranslated.

I've been wondering about why is Relius so good now, I'm no relius expert at all and I only have a small understanding of what he can do but from what I've seen his lockdown/mixups doesn't seem as dirty as let's say Carl or Arakune so what makes him so strong in CP?

hmmm so Shadow Labrys' only change is the cmd grab thing? so should I assume everything from the previous loketest is still the same?

Also Sho should have a shadow version too, since Yukari and Jumpei also have one.

I bet some bored japanese guy is already playing Persona 4 again to see if they can spot Sho somewhere

So is Kokonoe a zoner? she looks like it.

Well considering Elthum's song is also MB's opening shouldn't be surprising. Also when's new original characters?

Is love max ever coming to consoles or have they mentioned something about it? Also how are Maori and Lieselotte currently placed in the tiers? I haven't been following love max that much.

Thanks a lot for the answer and for Chaos' story. So my understanding is that Chaos, Hilda and Gordeau are from the same organization (Amnesia) but Hilda has been doing shady stuff with probably Kuon (Linne's brother) so they go to stop her. Then Chaos also wants to destroy Lich kreis and pretty much every other team in the game. Which makes me wonder if Chaos, Gordeau and Hilda are all evil guys, since well Orie's organization doesn't seem evil, nor is Linne's. Hyde is pretty much sucked into this, Merkava is like whatever, same with Carmine, same with Yuzuriha. I wonder if all the characters shown at the end of Chaos' ending will be playable at some point.

Anyone knows the changes made to Carmine? if he was the best in "vanilla" I guess they took some stuff out but gave him other things in return

hahahahaha So not only Vatista is loli sentinel but ALSO loli storm? yo

I still remember how Carmine was considered super low tier at the beginning

Yeah obviously she's not gonna be stomping you all day, but if she can indeed cancle normals from and into hover, that makes her already strong oki/mixup game even better. BTW what was the last tier list in the previous version? I guess Carmine/Yuzu at the top, but then what?

I was thinking, if Vatista can hover and stop at any point, makes me wonder if she could cancel normals into and from that, if so I think we've got a Loli Sentinel.

IIRC Vatista has some setups where you tech right before you fall as she's setting up a crystal, and from there she either crosses under, crosses under then jump forward (pop the crystal which makes it crossup again) and many more. I wish her EX fireball was a bit more useful, I rarely see anyone use it because apparently it has shitty startup.

YO damn, dat loli. But yeah, they need to patch this.