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Mikadok posted a new Chaos CMV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2tZoBL1Rfw

So whos gotten their hands on P4U? Let me know how Naoto is!

Well theres no reason why this combo wouldnt work from 5CC. And this combo would be impossible from 2A, unless you go 2A > 5C immediately. Yes that should be j.236B > j.214A

UNIEL Replay Archives: Seth Matches 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSRQc7GQz_I I dont recall anything extraordinary happening. But ill skim again just to make sure. 0:31 G_dans (Seth) vs Manaitapaipai (Hilda) 3:13 am-satoru (Yuzuriha) vs Ryu1829 (Seth) 5:47 Iroha_000 (Akatsuki) vs o-samson (Seth) 6:46 Getting away with a lot of teleports lol 7:37 Teleport j.214A > Something > Orb Hits might be a route worth exploring after setting up oki 8:22 okosama6 (Yuzuriha) vs sophia_64 (Seth) 10:52 Asagili0225 (Vatista) vs Byakuei_ (Seth)

I wish I saved the hitboxes I needed before that happened :/ EDIT: UNIEL Replay Archives: Chaos Matches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su2WEObijS8 Going through this, some interesting stuff happened. Ill post notes later on. 0:48 Gotchomomma (Chaos) vs Chrischan13 (Gord) 1:20 Punish whiff Gord 5C with Reflector 1:35 Rolling through Grim Reaper is not as safe as it seems. 3:30 OmgAyane (Linne) vs Doobylovah (Chaos) 7:11 Shimazkzk (Chaos) vs Webaltf4 (Merk) 7:30 Chaos oki train, I think the Merk player was just pushing a lot of buttons for no reason. 8:49 Epic DBZ concentrate war 9:52 Viewtiful (Byakuya) vs UNI__PPP (Chaos) 10:10 5BB > Delay > 5CC seems like a strong frame trap (appears again at 10:34) 11:21 Succesful Hide oki into combo 11:40 623B to punish Azhi punish attempts 13:20 Kazutodan (Merk) vs a1934646 (Chaos) 15:24 UNI__PPP (Chaos) vs gg2kysin (Yuzu) 16:34 Ummm.. trolling with roll? Seems like hes trying to take the yomi to the next level by predicting slashes, but it didnt pay off haha. 16:53 Run under... 6C? 17:50 Gotchomomma (Chaos) vs Wolfkrone (Hilda)

I kinda had that problem week one. Just make your motions really small and accurate so that you never trigger a 6 input. Dammnit I want to try this, but I lent my UNIEL to my friend :<

Ill do a replay roundup tomorrow. Maybe theres something more interesting there lol.

8/24 UNIEL Combat Echizen Cup Casuals Match roundups: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i5CodYRjV4&list=UUQF3WW4MmcRc3jMnAdSzwQQ Seth vs Gordeau (0:00) Seth vs Hilda (2:51) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpJzakX_M7I&list=UUQF3WW4MmcRc3jMnAdSzwQQ Seth vs Vatista (1:20) Seth vs Gordeau (26:32) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo7GOcsrR8c&list=UUQF3WW4MmcRc3jMnAdSzwQQ&index=6 Seth vs Waldstein (17:56)

Found a Hilda vs Chaos match: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjK-u3fA0o&feature=youtube_gdata_player 12:01 Match starts. 12:48: 6C > CS seems like a good option since if it hits you can go in, and if it doesnt you can just keep blocking. 14:48: Bunch of Azhi strings 16:05: Grabbing them during the gap during 236C seems like a good gimmick.

Tried to apply that VO route to a different combo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uwp0XL1UBg CANT GET THE 623A > IW. If you do the IW raw then its like 4349 in terms of damage.

I.. I didnt forget! I swear :< I like this one. I dont have enough combo routes into VO without CS.

Mmm the intention was just a Gordeau PUNISH video. So just cases where you can make a call and punish him. I know its not useful in terms of teaching a matchup. I cant really go into matchup details without having to be verrry specific to the characters involved. I only play Seth so the best I can do is a Seth vs Gordeau matchup video. I can't go into anything greater than this. It doesnt erase the fact that you have to learn the matchup and more importantly learn how to fight your opponent. Best I can do for now is just say "Hey you can deal with this string by doing this" and "Dont press buttons during this" not "You can outpoke him with this" and "You can bait him with these." Its more or less a primer so that you dont have to spend excess time in the lab to try to beat a blockstring. Gordeau definitely has answers to counter a lot of what I've shown (ex. empty jumping when he suspects a DP etc etc). Thanks for your input though! I do understand your point and I hope I can try to work towards what youve suggested.

Im gonna work on some more sandwich combos and just work out the combo theory on how it works.

I prefer 5A as my anti air just for how fast/high it hits. 5B route is like: 5B > 623B > 623A > 2C > 214CC > 6C > Rion Combo 5A route is now like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB4pp6VJhUw&feature=youtu.be You dont have to end it like the way I did btw. Yeah that happens, just delay your next attack. Dante did this in Marvel 3 as well >_> Meaty 66C (cross over) > 623A is a setup that we kinda discussed already. No its negative. But Seth is actually just cancelling j.214A on block into 214BB so youre not really just going to hit him out of it.

*throws combo into the ring* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGpo1gh2878

Man I planned a long set vs Carmine yesterday. Im pretty certain setting orbs in neutral is practically impossible. Its better to just wave through the blood spikes and wheels with your movement and -maybe- set an orb if itll help you get over something/ you see an opening.

1. Makes sense, noted! 2. Retested this. If you shield 66C, you can throw punish/reversal if he presses 5A. Thanks! 3. Yeah I completely missed this. 4. Didnt really expect that to work for Yuzu. huh. Ill add annotations in the youtube video for what I missed. Thanks for the help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h2XXdWeOCM&feature=youtu.be I wasnt sure where to put this, as the Gordeau forums didnt make sense and posting this in all the Matchup forums was out of the question. But heres a lengthy 12 minutes video on how to deal with/punish common Gordeau things. If I made any mistakes (or left any information out) let me know.

Going to join the Chaos army for a bit. Lets see if I find anything.

Im not too sure what this is, but I believe its some korean UNIEL tournament. As far as I can tell theres at least two competent Seth players in here. Ill try to search for anything cool, but here are the matches for now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frJcg7ISdQU&feature=youtube_gdata_player Vs Vatista 5:00-9:15 >6:24 Cross up j.214A setup? Stuff > 214BB > j.236B > 44 > opponent techs forward j.214A Vs Akatsuki 10:00-14:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nkJOjEZC9A Vs Waldstein 16:20 - 20:50 >19:47 Baits Wald CMD grab with 214BB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzpHIu2Y3bU Vs Linne 20:30 - 28-28 >Unblockable setup with CS at 28:10 2A > 5C > 214CC > 6C > j.236B > j.214A > 214BB > 44 > j.214A > 236C > CS > j.6C > j.236A ... Opponent Techs and Blocks EX Orb > j. 214B (UB) > Orb hits > 6C > Stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_TddWlGSYE Vs Byakuya 13:35- 22:00 Vs Linne 23:00- 28:48

Wow I love the BnB Brett posted. Its super easy and really fun WHILE doing good damage and maintaining oki options. Its perfect :DD

Oooh nice, ill try this out.

This post has nothing to do with whats above. Going back to Time Lag Cloud: I realized when I died trying to do it on ranked that this combo is actually character specific if you do it as is 2:34 5B > 5CC > 214CC > 6C > j.236B > j.214A > 214BB > late j.214A > Orb Hit > j.6C > j.214A > 214BB > j.214C HOWEVER, you can make this slight alteration to get it to work on the entire cast (Even the Loli hitboxes) without any penalty. 5B > 5CC > 214CC > 6C > j.236B > j.214A > 214BB > delay j.214A > Orb Hit > Jump Back > air assault forward > j.6C > j.214A > 214BB > j.214C You want them slightly higher when you do delay j.214A so that you don't accidentally air dash over them while trying to land 6C. Sorry if anyone died from this like I did lol. You can still only do this from a 5B or better starter btw.

No. It does less damage. BUUTTT MORE IMPORTANTLY, it works on Eltnum. So we have a decent oki option off of 2A against her now.

Sorry for double posting: http://finalclause.dantarion.com/hitboxes/#12/2/0 Hitbox viewer! So who wants to add these to the wiki? ;o