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Posting a transcript of the Bon-chan combo videos for reference: Sol Combo Referral Video WT > 5K(1) > 2H(JC) > j.K > j.S(JC) > j.S > j.H(1) > SVV -> TO (video) SL WT > 5H > 2H(JC) > j.S > j.K > j.S(JC) > j.S > j.H(1) > SVV -> TO (video) KY 5K(1) > 6P > 5H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> dash j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) MI 5K(1) > 6P > 5H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> hj.D, j.K > j.D |> j.K > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) SO 5K(1) > 6P > 5H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> dash j.K > j.S > j.K > j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.D > Kudakero > 5K > 6P > 6H > GF(f) (video) PO WT > dash 2H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> dash hj.D, j.K > j.D |> j.K > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) AX [sS] WT > dash j.D(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D(JC) > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) FA f.S > 5H(RC) > BB > dash 5K > 2H(JC) > j.S > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) VE f.S > 5H > GF(RC) > f.S (GF hits) > BB > dash 2H(JC) > j.S > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.H(2) > SVV -> TO (video) BE throw(RC) > dash j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) CH throw(RC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> hj.D, j.K > j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) AX 5K(1) > 6P > 5H(RC) > BB > Fafnir > dash 5K(1) > 2H(JC) > j.D > Kudakero > HVV -> TO (video) SL throw(RC) > BB > Fafnir > dash 5K(1) > 2H(JC) > j.D > Kudakero > 5K(1) > 6P > 6H > GF(f) (video) BE 5D > Homing Jump > j.D(JC) > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) MA 5D > Homing Jump > j.D(JC) > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.K > j.D(JC) > j.K > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) ZA 5D > Homing Dash > 6H > BB > Fafnir > dash 2H(JC) > j.D > Kudakero > 6P > 6H > GF(f) (video) SO 5D > Homing Dash > dash j.D, j.D |> dash 2H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D > Kudakero > HVV -> TO(video) FA airdash j.S > j.H(2) |> 5K(1) > 2H(JC) > IAD j.P > j.S > j.H(2) |> dash 5K(1) > 6P > 5H > BR (video) PO 5K(1) > 6P > 2H(JC) > IAD j.P > j.K > j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) BE WT > dash 2H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.K > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) PO Sol Combo Referral Video Part 2 5K(1) > 6P > 5H(JC) > j.D, j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> hj.D, j.K > j.D |> hj.D, j.K > j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) AX 5K(1) > c.S > 2D > BR(2)(RC) > j.D |> dash j.K > j.S(JC) > j.S > j.H > SVV -> TO (video) IN 5K(1) > c.S > 2D > BR(2)(RC) > j.D |> dash j.D, j.D |> hj.D, j.K > j.D |> dash j.K > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.D > SVV -> TO (video) MI Kudakero(2nd hit only)(RC) > BB > dash 5K(1) > 2H(JC) > j.S > j.D(JC) > j.S > j.H > SVV -> TO (video) ZA Kudakero(2nd hit only)(RC) > BB > Fafnir > dash 6P > 2H(JC) > j.D > Kudakero > HVV -> TO (video) VE WT > dash j.D, j.D |> Fafnir > dash 6P > 2H(JC) > j.D > Kudakero > HVV -> TO (video) BE 5K(1) > 6P > DI > 5K > 2H(JC) > j.D > (DI)Kudakero > [dash j.D > (DI)Kudakero]x4 > (DI)TR (video) FA 5D > Homing Dash > Fafnir > dash 6P > DI > c.S > (DI)BR > c.S > (DI)HVV(RC) > (double jump) (DI)Kudakero > (DI)TR > (DI)Fafnir (video) VE 5D > Homing Dash > Fafnir > dash 6P > DI > c.S > (DI)HVV(RC) > (DI)Kudakero > dash j.D > (DI)Kudakero > (DI)TR > (DI)Fafnir > 2D (video) VE 5D > Homing Dash > Fafnir > dash 6P > DI > c.S > (DI)BR > c.S > (DI)HVV(RC) > (double jump) (DI)Kudakero > (DI)TR > (DI)GV (video) VE 5D > Homing Dash > Fafnir > dash 6P > DI > c.S > (DI)HVV(RC) > (DI)Kudakero > dash j.D > (DI)Kudakero > (DI)TR > (DI)GV (video) VE 5D > Homing Dash > Fafnir > dash 6P > DI > c.S > (DI)HVV(RC) > (DI)Kudakero > dash j.D > (DI)Kudakero > (DI)TR > (DI)GV (video) VE

Nah Fafnir no longer cancel-able into, like the old one. But it has more utility since you can combo after it on normal ground or air hit near corner, causes ground roll/slide. on CH it has them tumbling across the floor for a hilariously long time.

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RS > airdash j.S > j.BR. don't know if that really knocked down, or the opponent didn't tech. Not sure if he could've linked 5K there, he didn't try. Someone with more indepth understanding of #R air BR might be able to speculate better than me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmPVXWHvZ4Q&t=7m29s What happens when 2 RS collide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmPVXWHvZ4Q&t=7m36s I linked something earlier saying it looked like RS didn't travel under once it passed, but this makes me think otherwise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmPVXWHvZ4Q&t=7m40s Another Kudakero blocked up close, Axl doesn't even IB and the 2nd hit whiffs allowing a punish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrcpW9RmP6g&t=7m36s Example of GF exploding Faust's oil item https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cX2QiKYx9w&t=2m30s Another instance of 2nd hit only Kudakero, probably knocks down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3jeQmwScgw&t=2m12s Danger Time Kudakero > Fafnir combos, not surprisingly. Second time he tries outside Danger Time and it fails. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksTydz_7kQ&t=3m35s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bksTydz_7kQ&t=4m16s CH (DI)BB causes tumbling here, like Final Ultima mentioned earlier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B_0ssd8dyY&t=21m56s Haven't finished watching this, but at about 5:50 we finally see 2S > 6H gatling is possible, and combos on CH. Pretty nice. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/44143306

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/44143306 ? (SO) vs ? (MA) throughout until 00:45:00 hopefully it gets youtube'd [02/23/2014] ? (SO) vs. ? (SO) [Notes] Okayama Fantasista [02/23/2014] ? (SO) vs. ? (AX) [Notes] Okayama Fantasista [02/23/2014] ? (SO) vs. ? (AX) [Notes] Okayama Fantasista [02/23/2014] ? (SO) vs. ? (SO) [Notes] Okayama Fantasista [02/23/2014] ? (SO) vs. ? (ZA) [Notes] Okayama Fantasista [02/23/2014] ? (SO) vs. ? (AX) [Notes] Okayama Fantasista

I can go to the monthly, I would play #R for laughs but nothing more, getting into it would just mess me up in +R.

I feel like I saw this said somewhere but couldn't find in here, Kudakero seems bad on a close instant block. Check these examples, he gets punished as the flame either goes behind them or they hit Sol before it activates and it doesn't trade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmhhKq8ziSg&t=7m46s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmhhKq8ziSg&t=11m8s Also think this is a universal thing but nice to see confirmation, after VV(2) RC you have air options, unlike before. He double jumps. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmhhKq8ziSg&t=14m42s Ye old WT combos, but felt like making note of it since it's slightly better than the basic of the basic stuff most have been doing midscreen so far. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frVL_t50b_0&t=8m53s I wonder if c.S is neutral on block like in +R. It looks like it based on this? but can't tell exactly of course. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re8IWL4jBDI&t=1m41s A normal ground hit Kudakero hitting both hits, doesn't knock down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re8IWL4jBDI&t=7m57s Also started adding general move info to the first post. If anything is wrong in there, or you know the answer to something, or info isn't listed yet and you know something, let's post about it so we know exactly what each moves properties are. I'll start adding video links people have been providing in here to the descriptions. And has anyone seen 2S > 6H gatling? It was reported in one of the loketests. If you see this, it could be a simple thing to test. Does 2S > 6H gatling/chain? If so does it combo on counter hit (I assume it would?) EDIT: oh no, I think 2D would've reached here before? Proof of shorter range? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=re8IWL4jBDI&t=20m36s

[02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (KY) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis [02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (MI) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis [02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (CH) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis [02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (ZA) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis [02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (MI) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis [02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (KY) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis [02/22/2014] ? (SO) vs ? (SL) [Notes] Game Center Tecnopolis

Fafnir causes the rolling on normal hit as well. examples from 2nd post in here: air hit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=60m39s ground hit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h02m47s and 6H knocks down on air hit, no bounce. example from 2nd post in here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=26m21s Don't know what happens on CH 6H air hit. Adding a description of move properties we know so far to the first post today.

Yeah the return of reload style sVV isn't necessarily always a nerf at least. At the range where a +R 2 hit CH sVV would connect but knockdown kick wouldn't reach (can happen a lot without dash momentum), this style is better since the CH knocks them down.

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Catching up on vids, pointing out some examples of things people have either been talking about or not in here. Soon we will add some general info on his moves/combos to the first post and/or elsewhere now that we have real footage. S Volcanic Viper looks like the pre-Slash version. It hits only once at a range where I'm positive Slash/AC/+R SVV would hit twice. Examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuFWeppx1AE&t=1h38m57s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=54m35s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=1h47m27s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjZwMXclQq8&t=3m20s DI GV looks like it can be combo'd after, at least in corner and possibly midscreen, as discussed a few posts back. Looks like at least 5K would connect easily after it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=55m20s CH 2H appears to have untechable time similar to pre +R: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=56m49s Something I've been noticing a lot but here's one example. It looks to me like throw might not combo to 5K in corner anymore on anyone. However it appears to knockdown all characters now, which is good. I haven't seen anyone airtech after being thrown yet. Midscreen example a few seconds later. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=58m08s Air throw seems to not pop them up as high after connecting. Means less time for positioning on oki and looks like you can't 5K after in corner anymore. Examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=1h44m58s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bltGbksOYeQ&t=1m10s crouch hit CH 5H > BB example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=1h35m57s

I have a lot to catch up on from the weekend, but has anyone tried messing with or seen fuzzy j.S RC to combo after it? I bet the slowmo is enough to come down on them with something after it hits. And if blocked maybe you can get a decent mixup off it.

Just did a edit in my post but don't think CH 5H Fafnir will work without RCing. Yes Dunno if that gatling is back. I would assume not but who knows I've only seen CH 6H hit grounded and it did the bounce (link in earlier post). Dunno if it still does on CH air hit. CH 5H > GV and CH 5H > IAD j.S (stand hit) should still work.

As for CH 5H > BB, it can combo on crouch and air hit (like before). Dreiko sadly CH 5H would need to be RC to combo to Fafnir I imagine, since you cant special cancel into Fafnir like you can in +R. Yeah at least at midscreen ...2D BR RC is not as worth it without SW. But near corner it should still get good stuff. I saw 2D BR RC Fafnir work, which could likely go to dustloop. If not that then the old RC delay j.D to start dustloop should do fine. JCable j.K sounds cool. More fuzzy options perhaps. btw won't be home this weekend to update the video thread. If anyone finds new footage, feel free to throw it in there (as always).

[02/20/2014] http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/44027631 54:17 - 1:22:31, ? (SO) vs ? (MI) 1:32:28 - 1:41:55, ? (SO) vs ? (VE) 1:42:35 - 1:47:43, ? (SO) vs ? (SL) 2:32:55 - 2:36:11, ? (SO) vs ? (IN) Also various arcade mode with Sol in there between matches. We can see EX S color is back after the first set of Millia matches. Sol Arcade mode run: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTSq6L2Ljws EDIT: Youtube version of that Ustream archive, hooray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=54m17s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=1h28m46s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=1h32m28s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=1h42m35s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=2h32m55s EDIT 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YyEsTfFu84&t=0m29s Kusoru (SO) vs Koshimizu (SL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R48NJHGRN_c ? (SO) vs ? (KY) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=2h54m51s Sol Instant Kill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5JWypA_lcI&t=2h42m4s DI Instant Kill http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bltGbksOYeQ&t=0m21s NOB (SO) vs Kusoru (SO)

I took some notes on things maybe worth noting in the ASW launch tournament: vs Venom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=60m39s - GF > Fafnir combos, air hit Fafnir can then be followed up after in corner. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h00m59s - Possibly proof of air throw invulnerable air DI. Venom does j.H and it looks very much like he attempted to air throw. Also, DI lasts approximately 10 seconds at that high health. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h02m12s - Shows what DI GV looks like, and that it can be PRC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h02m47s - Start of match Fafnir whiff punish Venom's 5K? Also ground roll/slide is air-techable, catches Venom's tech with air hit 5K. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h03m07s - Kudakero on block, possibly advantage or neutral even on IB? It at least doesn't look bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h03m19s - CH Kudakero combos to Fafnir OTG? Leads me to believe CH Kudakero knocks down. vs Potemkin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h27m15s, 1h28m32s - Fafnir blocked, possibly free Potemkin buster? He doesn't do it after the first time, but it looks like maybe? EDIT: actually no, watching again I see Sol started something after Fafnir, maybe 2D. So it isn't a free Potemkin Buster on block, maybe IB though. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h28m01s - Kudakero has a hitbox behind it, although this is Potemkin we're talking about. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h28m49s - Throw can be RC, combos to BB. vs May http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=18m31s - Riot Stomp doesn't continue travelling after it passes under opponent. vs Chipp http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h09m48s - DI TR beam doesn't connect point blank? Looks like first hit whiffs on Chipp's wake-up then the beam is too far out. I assume normally the first hit on block pushes them back into the beam. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h10m22s - Example of 2nd hit Kudakero normal hit, knocks away and knocks down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=1h11m07s - CH 6H floor bounce. vs Bedman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=26m21s - Air hit 6H knockdown.

From the ASW launch stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=17m20s Shirei (SO) vs Game Center Arashi (MA) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=25m30s Yanki (SO) vs Shinyoko Bedman (BE) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=42m09s Shirei (SO) vs Galaxy Kawasaki (MI) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=47m37s Yanki (SO) vs Kachigatari Ozawa (SL) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=60m34s Yanki (SO) vs Deguchi (VE) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=69m01s Yanki (SO) vs Tsunoe (CH) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZDUy7JLPHA&t=86m59s Yanki (SO) vs Akira (PO) EDIT: First post updated.

Since loketests are over, I am locking this thread. Please use the gameplay discussion thread now: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?18879-Xrd-Sol-Badguy-Gameplay-Discussion Video thread is also open now, post videos in there, starting with the ASW restream. I'll post links with timestamps to the Sol matches shortly, unless someone kindly does so before me. http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?18867-Xrd-Sol-Badguy-Video-Thread Discussion of videos should take place in the gameplay discussion thread.

lol nah, I'll see if I still have it, I think I do

I think you'll be happy then, they seem to be making an effort to make DI practical with all the new stuff they've done with it. I can't wait for people to explore air DI in combos, such as after a dustloop perhaps. Also reward off WT while in DI will be way better than ever before I imagine thanks to all the new stuff.

In the Sol vs Faust match, at 14:20 he does a point blank 6H on block and doesn't cancel to anything, seems to get punished easily by Faust's 2P. Looks like it doesn't push back as far as Sol's old one or Order-Sol's. And a Sol vs Ky match from last night's stream: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34qZNepLaA&t=10m10s Not much to note in it, but danger time happens at 11:25.

sadly stuff came up today and I can't go anymore ...was really hoping to play you and others there. will try for the next one