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there's also the AoA method here http://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/c/5061833 If somebody could transcribe that combo for me that'd be great since it's 6:30AM and I need sleep

just tested it in training mode and it's definitely plus

setting up a cloud and leaving it be, then continuing with chocolate until the cloud is gone seems to work well or you can combo them into the cloud with something ending in 236A end with sweep in the corner for present oki, otherwise do 236A as your ender and safejump them into the corner. present/eye oki midscreen isn't really a thing that exists Marie's a setplay/pressure character, so you don't want to sacrifice free pressure by doing a less damaging combo that doesn't guarantee you pressure

nope, the only real reason for waiting is so you can feint or cancel into Igor for a fatal instead

Looks like the eyes absorb projectiles until they activate. Doesn't seem to be a limit to how many they absorb, either.

I just got it from the archive here http://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/c/5061837

2B>5C>2C>2B>5B>5BB>2AB>214A~C>2C>5C>236A>236236C [4624 max]

https://twitter.com/bhd_MAVEN/status/509964944305950722 additional frame data on her specials can't read all of it, but it's for her 236A/B, 214A, 214B, 214A/B~C, present feint, 236C/D, 214C/D placement, and 214C/D activation in that order

236D>2B>5C>2C>2B>j.B>j.C>jc>j.B>j.C>236AB [3183]

looks like it does if you omit the first 5C on the upside, the full post j.C combo is a lot easier on her in the corner

5A>5AA>5C>5B>5BB>j.C looks like it'll be her main combo route once you hit the ground off the j.C you can go into another short combo, like 5A>5AA>5C>2C>236C>236236C or just a 236A and pop an item or eye doesn't work in the corner I lied, it's just harder forward jump cancel into j.C https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAFlL0dDbKk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u5YXNKyOQ4&feature=youtu.be EDIT: looks like it doesn't work on the Shos, Teddie, Labrys, or SLab, the jC doesn't hit omit the 5C on Naoto, Yukari, Ken, Aigis, Yukiko, Adachi, Junpei, or Rise except in the corner because the 5BB will whiff Can't do anything besides 236A after the j.C on Liz or Yosuke, need to omit 5C maybe this isn't as ideal as it initially seemed

knew I wasn't crazy 5AA > 5B > 2B > 5C > 236B~B~C >236A > DP >236236B [3310, -26%] definitely works midscreen, even on the Shos it's harder midscreen in the corner because you have to cancel from DP into super just before leaving the ground, but it definitely works

I messed up, meant to say twitch http://www.twitch.tv/dagodhand/profile

check godhand's archives on twitch, he has a bunch of footage of him messing around with her in training mode

the 6k was off an AOA~C, and it takes over 100 meter You spend 125 meter, and you don't gain enough meter in the combo to be able to pull the whole thing off starting with 100 meter, so you can only do it in awakening. If you're in awakening, the opponent will likely have little enough health that the combo would outright kill, or they'll have significantly more life than you and you'll want to pull them down to your health as quickly as possible.

5AA> 5C> 5B> 2B> 2AB> 236B~delay B~C> 214A~A [2733/24%] is a slight bit better than the listed optimized BnB except that it doesn't work at absolute max 5A range, and you can still tack on the A or AB awakening super for 3813 and 4213 damage respectively You can do 5AA> 5B> 2B> 5C> 236B~B~C > 236A> DP> 236236B for 3310 damage

5CD > OMC > 5A > 5AA > 2B > 5B(1) > 5C > 214A > 4B > 4A [2761 damage, 50SP]

Alright, so you have to be in awakening with over 100 meter to pull out 6k That's a little less ridiculous

There are several Shadow Marie graphics in the game files, but it's not selectable in the CFW version that has all the on disc content unlocked Either she was scrapped or will be added later fast enough that you gain back the 25 SP during the combo, letting you do the full thing out of awakening?

Glide mixup tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cxn75_No0Wg

oh sweet, that means all the anime and movie songs will eventually be activated along with the Yosuke, Mitsuru, Akihiko, Yukiko, Chie, and The Ultimate remixes and holy shit, 6k off an AoA with 125 meter 4k off an anti air with 50 meter not broken at all thanks Arcsys

Her 5A is a low?

really the only the only thing to add is a 2B after the j.2C FC, and that only gets you another 25 damage

I knew as soon as screenshots for Ken came out that this matchup would suck His normals are huge, so you can't get in nearly as easily his 2B flat out beats our j.C, and his j.B is just plain mean don't forget to watch the fucking dog Basically, be a lot more patient and thoughtful, since he nullifies a lot of our advantages with his range Also he has several attacks that hit beyond burst range, so be careful about when you burst

The cloud seems like it would be better if coupled with a throw It'll beat waiting and dodging, and if they try to jump away they'll get tagged by the cloud At worst, they'll tech the throw and you'll be back at neutral If you think they'll go for a DP, you just bait it and punish instead of a throw