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I was definitely wrong about Marie's j.C being plus it's -5, so there's a single frame for a few characters to get a CH 5A or command grab in Kanji and Minazuki's cases all depends on how long it's already been active when you hit them If it finishes its active frames while still in the air, you'll definitely be safe

how is Marie looking weak, she shits out 4k on most characters no problem

nah, just saying that being scary in awakening doesn't really mean too much

Yeah, but you know who else is scary in awakening? Liz.

FC 214A~C>214A~C>5C>2C>2B>5BB>2AB>236B>airdash>j.B>j.2B>5AAAA>236236C~A [5716] is a better non OMB fatal the second pandora makes it so you actually gain 1 meter overall If you're in awakening with at least 99 meter you can do 5AAAA>236236B>omc>236236C~A for 6436

I never really meant that it was the best or even a particularly good option, just that it exists. It's about as good as moonsaulting over someone when they block a dash spring with Yosuke You can always be punished for it, but if you only throw it out every once in a while after training them to not expect it, you can catch some people off guard the 5A/5B reset off sweep is much better

FC 5C > 236A~C > omb > 236A~C > 236A~C > 236A~C > 236A~C > 5C > 2C > 2B > 5BB > 2AB > 236B > airdash > jB > j2B > jC(w) > 5AAAA > 236236B > omc > 236236C~A whopping 8234 damage doesn't work on Kanji, Shos, Labri, Teddie, Rise, or Junpei unless they're in the air, because 214A~C whiffs

looks like chocolate is projectile property, becasuse I just saw a Junpei bat one of the hits also apparently this is somehow possible

5AA>5B>5C>2AB combos aren't universal they don't work on Naoto, the Labri, Aigis, or Rise there are better alternatives anyway for all of them but the Labri, but I wanted to be thorough just omit the 5B for the next best combo using 2B>5B and omiting the 5C scales more

pointlessly complex combo for stupid damage need to start in snowy weather 236236CD~D>66C>2AB>236A>omb>5C>5BB>sweep>236B>airdash>j.B>j.2B>2A>2B>5C>2C>236A>236236CD~A [7487/-150+burst] transcribed from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAic_IJVVOM&feature=youtu.be

Most people that I've fought are cautious about Bright Arrow and let them fly, which is usually a bad move on their part once people start learning they can just hit the persona to stop it, things will change, but it's still a really good super it feels like they gave Marie the old Chie/Narukami blender at the cost of 50 meter and awakening, not to mention the super itself does a good amount of damage on its own

corner 5AA>2B>5B>5C>2AB>236C>5B>5C>2C>2B>236A [2690/29] 3517-4340 with weather super

Marie does 2.3-2.8k meterless on everyone but the shos, labri, and teddie depending on if you go for item placement or raw damage She has really good corner carry and meter gain, with her getting 20-30 meter from a midscreen BnB She also has multiple ways to combo into her autocombo, resulting in 40+ meter gained from a single combo

she can do 5k fatals that only require 1 meter she can't do the 4k BnB on the Shos, Labri, or Teddie, but it works on everyone else Marie does hella damage, but she needs meter, since half of it is from her weather super

ah, shit, didn't realize there was enough time for a 2B on reaction reseting with 5B or 5A after blocked sweep seems a lot better anyway you aren't airborne so you can safely bait stuff, and there's a lot less time for them to react If you do 5AA>5B>2AB you can reset with 5A, if you throw in a 5C or 2B, you have to use 5B

Resetting pressure is actually pretty easy with an airdash>j.B off a blocked 236A best bit is depending on how high you are when you airdash, you can "feint" a j.2B after the j.B the animation will start but you'll hit the ground before it finishes, and you can go straight into a 5A low

punish j.C jump-ins with 2B>5C>2C>2B>5BB>2AB>236B>airdash>j.B>j.2B>5AAAA>236236C [4183-5006/-7%]

cloudy weather's paralysis and extra cloud buffs help immensely in this matchup, along with cloud use in general our j.C gives us really good air movement, making it hard for him to hit us, but kunai shuts it down from fullscreen, so watch out

the timing for 2B punish gets easier once you practice with it in training, but DP is probably the next best alternative 2B has that weird invuln and you can combo after it, you can't combo off DP besides into Shell of Rejection j.C, but don't spam it like I'm guilty of, 5C>236C is a good way to catch people off guard from far away, 5B every once in a while works well too use eyes to stop projectiles, clouds and chocolate to keep them limited in how they approach, 236CD is a nice fullscreen poke or punish, her DP is good but really easy to punish so don't make it to big of a habit, 5D/2D/j.D can help keep the opponent away and can also mix them up if they expect you to j.C, making them whiff a punish attempt SB items are great because of the shock on block and direction correcting SB clouds just shock on block, nothing else seems different SB chocolate lasts way longer before auto opening if it auto opens at all, and it changes direction if they roll through or jump over it

OOOH OH DAMN SB CLOUD SHOCKS EVEN ON BLOCK

not for Rise, Ken, Adachi, and Marie though They're just as new to Japan as the rest of us And that's exactly why we haven't got any tier lists with them yet

236A>IAD>j.B pressure is pretty good but not perfect you can be hit when you try to airdash SB chocolate autocorrects direction if the opponent jumps over it or rolls through it. definitely lasts longer before automatically opening, too no idea about clouds

punish teleport slashes with 5BB>5C>2C>2B>5B>236B>airdash>j.B>j.2B>5AAAA>236236C does 4065-4888 and only requires 8 meter There aren't a lot of head invuln frames on our 2B and the range isn't as good, so don't bother trying to counter a teleport slash with it

looks like 52F, 52F, 20F startup/52F start to finish, 22F, 82F respectively

depending on character and range, Marie's 236236C/D/CD can be punished with an instant kill buffered during superflash if used raw For example Minazuki can't Yosuke and Marie can if they're close Yu can from fullscreen don't know about anyone else