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SB Eyes now pull about as much as Akihiko 5D

J.C LOOPS AND ALL OLD ROUTES CONFIRMED STILL POSSIBLE PRAISE BE

There were definitely at least some changes made to j.C in the loketest, as the guy posting notes on twitter said it was different, but he couldn't tell how.

Masao said he was able to j.C loop in the loketest, though it was difficult, and that he'll check later today when 2.0 goes live in arcades

oops too late I'd rather be able to do it myself so that I can make sure it gets updated and maintained

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so marie can combo into bright arrow off AOA http://youtu.be/JWCBUO5fq5Q

sweep cancelable 5AAA means that combos we previously had to end in autocombo with no knockdown can now give us a hard knockdown

yes, it's 5AA>2B>2AB>236AB>j.66B>j.2B>j.C(w)>2A>5B>5C>2C

j.C loops might not be gone, but I'll ask koichi and masao as soon as it comes out in arcade to confirm We get the same damage as j.C loops off her new 25 meter route though. The main disadvantage to losing j.C loops is that our only way to meterless setup midscreen is 5AA>sweep, as otherwise they're too far away

suku autocombo and whoo got fatal recovery, not fatal counter sorry

if j.C nerfs don't kill j.C loops (which I'll try to find out about as soon as possible), we'll get setplay off every meterless midscreen combo, but otherwise, it looks like we can really only get it off 5AA>sweep midscreen unless we spend 25 meter for the new 236AB route Marie's new ability to move the persona forward with 5C means she'll be able to 5D from varying distances

Doesn't even matter, since the persona only appears when you hit a button to send an arrow now SB has better recovery and you keep air movement after the air version to make it special luckily that's not a problem with chocolate, as we know they might be able to escape if that thing about boxes passing through people means the box ignores people who haven't teched, but we'll have to see

it'll make things like tick throws more real I guess

if you do nothing you can just grab the roll I do it in the corner with SB present oki I wait to see how they react, then respond accordingly if they DP, they get baited if they roll, they get thrown if they jump, I apply what pressure I can and then if they keep doing it, I run up 2B immediately after popping presents

Standing AA Decreased startup time Decreased recovery time, frame difference is the same Standing AAA Can be normal canceled into sweep Can be jump and dash canceled Standing BB Fall speed is reduced, ground bounce height reduced Standing C Adjusted forward movement and attack hitbox, reach increased Standing D Reduced total recovery time Jumping C Lowered attack level Reduced front area hitbox Increased front area hurtbox All Out Attack Guardpoint starts sooner and ends right before the attack portion Decreased recovery time SB Run Amok Decreased startup time SB Run Amok (Air) Increased untechable time of first hit, making it easier to connect into the second hit Dance, Fallen Angels (All Versions) Box falls lower at a faster speed, attack start-up time decreased Box can now pass through opponents Adjusted the box’s performance, making it easier to hit opponents A and SB versions will automatically attack the opponent sooner SB Dance, Fallen Angels Reduced recovery time Even during the attack, the box will turn towards the opponent Box comes out of the bag higher than normal version Memories of Grief (All Versions) Comes out of the box faster SB Memories of Grief Reduced recovery time Her Name is “Hope (Pandora)” Head attribute invincibility starts sooner C Stigma of Condemnation Decreased startup time Decreased recovery time D Stigma of Condemnation Performance is now the same as the C version, but appears farther away Persona always appears next to Marie regardless of prior position SB Abysmal Evil Eye Now pulls the opponent in stronger Shell of Denial (All Versions) Grounded version stays in counter hit state after landing Increased A and SB version startup time Increased SB version recovery ShutupIhateyouyoustupidjerk (All Versions) Untechable time no longer decreases with proration Minimum damage reduced to 1000 Shining Arrows (All Versions) Persona appears on screen when doing the follow-up inputs for the C and SB versions Persona does not appear onscreen from offscreen when performing the follow-up inputs for the D version Persona is no longer invincible during the SB version Aerial C & D versions now have recovery until landing SB Shining Arrows Recovery time reduced Weather SP gain reduced during Snow Certain Persona Attacks Persona is now invincible when appearing until active frames (Standing C and Crouching C)

as far as I can tell, it's inescapable with 5B meaty covering it midscreen (aside from some DPs beating it) with meter we can make it inescapable anywhere, and in the corner we don't even need meter to make it inescapable, we can just sit and wait for them to see what they'll do, then mix them up It's a REALLY strong buff, strong enough that Bace said "marie became a p4u1 character"

no you don't understand, it's like P4A sweep>5D present pull speed is now the same as boss mode, meaning she can present pull>5B to stop rolls SB version is even faster and lets you get a meaty 2C (and by extent, meaty 5C>dash cancel) as shown

video of some of Marie's 2.0 changes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIy7SocmMaA

found another good eye oki blockstring 5A>2A>5A>5AA>5C>5B>2B IB safe except for 5A>5AA you can stay grounded, jump cancel the 2B for gapless IAD j.2B>j.B, do jump>late airdash>j.2B>j.B, j.A stuff, empty jump low, etc have to delay a tiny bit somewhere or else there'll be a gap before detonation

his normals match her range pretty well but without the recovery she has, and he can just keep her from doing anything fullscreen with 2D or teleport present pull has a lot of recovery, so a lot of characters with fullscreen stuff can punish neutral present pull on reaction There's also the fact that Marie can't do her j.C loop on Minazuki, so her damage output on him is limited compared to other characters.

Minazuki is probably her worst, Mitsuru isn't a good one either other than that I'd say it's all pretty even and good luck finding videos, almost no one plays her. I'll be happy to answer any questions though

learn the j.C loop inside and out, learn the safejump, learn the anti air combo, learn the crouch confirm combo, and learn the corner throw combo her strengths are her pressure and setplay along with her large range and incredible damage for little effort her weaknesses are the incredibly long recovery on her large normals, the slow startup on her present pull, and the small amount of effort it takes to avoid her items outside of the corner. characters with fullscreen things like Minazuki's 2D can do a number on her

It IS a safejump It's only different from the j.C one in the timing and the fact it hits high