Aginor

As an update to everybody, I will start making the CS2 Mu guide soon since there is an actual release date now~ I don't know if people want me to stick the same images and stuff from the CS1 guide and keep the format the same. But uhh....let me know on stuff you'd like to see because if not I'll probably stick with the format my CS1 guide was. And yea...I'll go get some videos made with that being said as well.

What? Multiple arcade setups of bbcs2? ... : |||

lol it's ok. I lost it too! I'm waiting for cs2 as well. Last time I played cs1, I tried playing mu like I'm playing cs2. lols. I'm from norcal but uh...in my past experiences, I've had pretty bad connections from central and ec. It was better in ct but in cs1 it was pretty bad to the point it was almost unplayable. We can try if you want.

Of course noel doesn't really have any good pokes but you have to utilize what you have. 5b and 5c are her best pokes. If opponents start poking then start using frame traps. And thing with noel is she's a high risk/high reward character. You won't get anywhere without taking risks. And nobody likes being in neutral against zoners. Thing I've learned is you have to be patient against zoners. Well...thing about noel is that you just have to find one hole/mistake your opponent made and just capitalize on it since noel does a lot of damage. I'll just say it feels pretty even IMO or slightly in mu's favor but eh....I don't think it's THAT bad...

My conclusions after testing are..... 1. Noel's 5d is pretty much Mu's SoD range. They're pretty much the same. If you use SoD in a blockstring, it's a HUGE guessing game. If you use SoD instantly after 5c or whatever normal, Noel can just IB 5d. If you wait, noel can just IB dash 5a or IB 5b and get a free CH. Unless somehow you can SoD Noel on reaction to her 5d. In fact, Noel's 5d can hit Mu's SoD if you use it alone because Mu extends her hitbox in the animation. 2. Lastly, how noel beats mu or any zoner is walk/push them to the corner and you rape them. 3. You still need to know the match up in order to beat Noel. Oh and uh....noel's 2d and 3c aren't really good pokes.....

btw, I play Noel and my Noel is better than my Mu.

In regards to Mu vs. Noel, it's actually even imo. Noel actually has answers to Mu's stuff. For noel it's like playing against lambda except Mu has a way better DP, and normals than lambda but I do think Lambda has an easier time keeping Noel out. As for Noel, you don't have much of a pressure to even begin with except 5a and 2b. Noel is more about conditioning rather than having constant pressure. If you wanted constant pressure, go play jin. I'm not going to further discuss about what noel can do because this isn't the forum for it. But uhh.....for noel just IB 5d. It beats A LOT of stuff.

Mu is already a lot more fun than about 80-90% of the cast for me. I was thinking about dual maining in cs2 but I'm going to end up maining mu. Like there are things I find interesting in the old characters I used to play but they're not going to last that long imo. The only other characters that seem fun and interesting to me right now in cs2 are ragna and platinum.

Yup, I was the guy with the white hoodie and blue quicksilver shirt running bb brackets with spirit juice.

Shout outs to me running all over the place from running BB brackets and losing my voice. Don't worry I'm in the group picture that sG took! If you want to try out stuff with me, just add me on PSN and we can play.

tbh, I don't think we should have BB regional exhibitions. Given every game starts at 2PM. Dunno if all of top 8 or what not will be streamed on IPW. If you wanted something like this, it should've been expressed a lot earlier. Not the day before the actual event.

What's up guys?

@Pestilence: Read FAQ. Lastly, I use white mu with black hair, color 9 I believe, because that was my Noel color.

I have no problem with you posting the frame data. It's fine. I can do the changes if nobody else wants to.

Just so you guys know, 6b is almost completely safe. I think so far only tager can punish it with an IB 360a. It seems unchanged from cs1 and starts up in 3f.

6b rc? lol Well...they had to tone down some of the moves like hakumen's 5a. If that was still +6 I doubt characters would really have an answer even with IB. lol Well....it's ok if mu's 2a is 7f since she has a DP. I'm curious about 5c SD, startup and SoD SD.

Seen that before...pretty sure it was around here somewhere. If not it's here.

It's no one's obligation to record anything. If you wanted to watch it THAT bad well...maybe you should've been there.

Seems like in CS2, proration on Mu's 5c got A LOT better. Saw a 6.3k combo from a 5c CH when the opponent is airborne and close to the corner. 5c (CH) 5c 6c SoD 6b 5c 2c j.c j.2c j.5d 2b 5c 2c j.2c 3c SoD 632146c

Seems like in CS2, proration on Mu's 5c got A LOT better. Saw a 6.3k combo from a 5c CH when the opponent is airborne and close to the corner. 5c (CH) 5c 6c SoD 6b 5c 2c j.c j.2c j.5d 2b 5c 2c j.2c 3c SoD 632146c

We'll both run brackets for the minor next month. Don't worry about it.

I get it 5 dollars is a week's worth of food because you live on jack in the crack curly fries!

inb4 james brings PNW to denny's.

Tager's 6a isn't jump cancellable in CS2 iirc.

Here are two option selects (OS) I wanted to share in case people don't know. I tested this in cs1 and I'm pretty sure it'll work in cs2. Tager: As you know, players love to use his 6a in cs2 with his super armor. I see that a lot on oki and just getting in on his opponents. One way to go about this is to block his 6a then input 623B+C. You can option select this because tager HAS to do something after his 6a whenever he uses it since it is not jump cancellable. Here are the possible situations and outcomes after tager's 6a. 1. tager cancels into a purple command throw, and you immediately tech the throw. 2. tager tries to go for a tick grab/frame trap, and you dp him. 3. tager does a true blockstring in which case you just end up blocking it. Tager's only way to avoid this OS is to 6a rc. Carl: Usually carl players will like to do xx 5b iad j.2c allecan into doll combo into more pressure into a reset. You can OS carl when he does the iad j.2c since he can choose to cross you up or not. In this case, when you know he's going for this, you can do 421A+B+C. Here's what will happen if done correctly: 1. Carl crosses you up. He gets DP'd. 2. Carl doesn't cross you up. You barrier block. That's all I know of so far besides the corner OS with the roll tech.