TaoFTW

FUTAE NO KIWAMI INSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHL!

Don't worry, the ranbats will return at the first Saturdays of every month. If you want to try setting up a bi-weekly, then that'll be awesome.

You actually live in a no-mans land, but half moon bay is a big wave surf spot. So if you want to get to any gatherings, then you better have a car or do public transportation.

Very much so. :3

It's like we have Digital Russell vs. Spirit Dawkins battling over the Guilty Gear Delusion; I like it.

Well at least we have another person mashing GG. lol I have a thing called work, so no. :3 So are you confirmed to stay in Cali forever?

SaltWasBannedd...? :3

Sprout some drama.

WTH?! Where have you been!? >:3

Be sure to check out NCI ranbats with GG/BB/MB. Stuff is mad hype! http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9949-The-Future-of-NorCal-INSTALL!-%26%23947;-3-Monthly-Ranbats Max, I miss you.

So I assume that the right way should get casual players to pay-to-play in a competitive setting for minimum loss? If that is true, then SVGL should charge BBCS 25 cents per play. The better way to look at it is this - charge free play (in a competitive setting) for no loss. There will be casual stations at NCI and non-competitive players should be encouraged to play. Doing this solves two important issues: (1) casual players are encouraged to play for fun and (2) they'll be exposed to high level play IRL. NorCal Regionals does this exceptionally well and you don't have to pay a dime to watch high level competition. The reality is that casual players don't want to spend a dime on anything when they know they get bodied. The ones who don't, like Drayne_O, are exceptionally awesome and deserve to have raffle prize giveaways. ;3 The GG/MB players that you talked about on campus were Riotblade, Tenkai and AJ; they helped to make NCI to what it is today. SJSU, as far as I am concerned, is a dead scene. There are no -new- competitive players who are willing to break limb-for-limb to learn a game that'll screw you up the ass. Anyone who repped SJSU at NCI last year can vouch for this. So yes, I agree with you that building the scene is important. Charging a higher venue fee doesn't discourage competitive play nor casuals. On the contrary, high competitive play inspires casual players to join the competitive scene. If you want people to join the community, then you should encourage high level competition in a fun and friendly environment. What better way to do that than to support numerous casual setups? Btw Chun, you're bringing up some important points. Don't take this criticism as something destructive. So keep the ball rolling.

Dakanya brought in a good point. People who play casually will only show up for casuals. They might enter a big tournament once in a blue moon, but you won't see them coming out consistently. I don't really care if you guys trim down the pot size. Sprt wants a small buy in cause he's poverty. $6 buy in for BB? (3 for venue; 3 for pot) $8 buy in for GG/MB? (3 for venue; 5 for pot) I'm cool with that as long as you guys are cool with it.

tl;dr Here's Keystone II's reasoning for charging their venue fees. They have SF4, 3s, MvC2, and every major capcom game in their household. You can only get in by invitation only and must pay a small venue fee. The majority of the money goes towards buying new equipment for tournament use/casuals, help cover hotel costs for NCR, and show that KSII is legit. Yes they pocket some of the money, but the majority of money goes back to the community. If you want some proof, then look at NCR and their local community. If they can do it, then why can't we do something of that caliber? It's true that we don't have any person who, singlehandedly, owns every single ASW cab. But if we can show the Capcom scene that we are self-sufficient, then we can work with some bigger tournament organizers to get BB/MB/GG on a greater scale. Also, Dacid is right; you have to be upfront about where ALL the money goes. If you don't, then you'll get a rehash of Blanka707. MAKE IT RAIIIIIIN! Edit: So assuming we get 40 entrants at every NCI ranbat and 10 for the biweekly, we will get $90 every month. Reserving a hotel ballroom for a 2-day event is $2k. If I can convince the hotel sales staff to give us a discount, then that's $1k - $1.5k. Ranbat Savings: $90 x 5 = $450 Registration: $5 x 80 = $400 Sponsors (Brokentier, Aksys, Character Design Artists): $20 x 3 = $60 The more people who register for our tournament means more money we can save from our Ranbat fund. More savings means more raffle prize giveaway, bigger pot, and the less you have to pay for registration. Also, we've hosted NCI ranbats before where we had $10 buy ins. We still managed to have 30 people come out to pay n' play. *** Short Version Charging $2 Pro: - Better chance to host a big tournament in a hotel ballroom. - More publicity and legit tournaments (possibility of getting connections with EVO and NCR) Con: - Accountability and liability; people can always steal your fight money and leave everyone butthurt.

tl;dr version As much as we don't want to charge a small venue fee, part of the vision for NCI is to build the FG scene that rivals NCR. The reality is that a big/small pot will never reach out to a non-competitive casual community. Since this is a mini tournament, it's all the more important to start saving to subsidize hotel costs; we are not a SF4 community and we cannot draw out a crowd bigger than 200 people. If we are going to reserve a hotel ballroom, then we need to save up at least $1k ($2k to reserve hotel ballroom for 2 days). Charging a small venue fee will help make this idea into a reality. Am I going to be using it for my own purposes? I won't deny my need for money, but I can live without stealing money from people. :3 This is a community effort and I believe my sacrifice to the FG scene is proof that I -will- steal your fight money. We have five months to get ready for SUPER-BLAZING NCI. It sounds like a long time, but March will pounce on you before you can say, "MY FIGHT MONEYYYYYYYYYY!" The following people are those whom I can trust with any large sum of currency: SprtJuice, PhaethonH, Kijiyama, Katanadash, Tsubasa and I. If you want to join the list, then you need to earn our respect. *** Short version Charge $2 venue fee; money will be used for one of the following reasons: - Subsidize hotel costs - Purchasing NCI equipment - End-of-the-year ranbat pot(?) People who will be in charge of collecting venue fee: - TaoFTW - Spirit Juice - PhaethonH - KatanaDash - Kijiyama - Tsubasa

Hey I found Qwerty in diapers!

I never played a character that was top 5 :3

acer. Wednesday all day and Saturday morning from 9am-noon.

I work tomorrow so I can't go... UNLESS I CALL IN SICK.

Yes. Here's the deal, we don't -always- have to stay at the Bay Area. In all honesty, I want there to be bi-weekly sessions scattered throughout Santa Cruz, Berkeley, San Mateo, midway between Sac and Berkeley. My vision for NCI is to empower you, the local FGer, to build your scene at a place where I can't. I only considered Sacramento a dead scene cause Scott says so, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to do something of your own caliber. If you can build up the local community to rival that of socal/norcal, then we'll bring NCI to you. Edit: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?9949-The-Future-of-NorCal-INSTALL!-%26%23947;-3-Monthly-Ranbats&p=744295&viewfull=1#post744295 NCI is now on it's way. Scott will take charge and edit the posts, so stay up-to-date by checking that first page. With that said... ...I shall take my leave.

CT Tao combos were fun. CS Tao combos were long. CS2 Tao combos are w/e. I don't have a problem with tauntloops or driveloops, but I wouldn't say she's getting the nerf stick. We don't know anything until we play the revised BB. So let's just keep the speculation to a minimum.

Hit me up on AIM, I'll give you rundown at how to do stuff.

I suggest we go back to the way we always hosted our tournaments; do it on the first Saturday of every month.

I will once I open a new savings account solely for NCI.

If you can start hosting stuff, then you should start taking charge of the tournaments.