I messed up the timing on it. I was trying to Led Ley during Ignis's hit to push you through me. The move is alright for full screen carry but kills the followup options to hell cause of prorate and tech.
Yea, once someone figures his mixups out it becomes very difficult to break through someones defense with Relius. Have to be random with frame traps using Ignis. Yea the Haku matchup is going to end up in numbers close to what CT Nu vs Tager was back in the day. I hate the fact any character with great mobility requires you to use more Ignis to get in, which in turn means less damage possible afterwards to do. So many of my rounds if I get in i'll take out a huge chunk of someones health then i'm playing defense waiting for Ignis to come back and pray I get another chance out of the opponents pressure to finish the job. I think that's why I see so many Relius's using CA which I need to get in a habit of using. I agree it's sad though. I wouldn't be surprised he moves down in the loltierlists by the end of the games life cycle. I'm going to stick with him through it to become proficient in his style so whenever a new version comes I can pray they balance him out some. :/