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Honestly, I'm fine when it comes to updates and balance changes. However, when they happen to often, that gets annoying. But, the only thing that worries me is how Arcsys balance their games. Every time they "balance" their game, it's a goddamn coin toss. "Character is top tier? Now he just sucks!" kinda of thing kills it for me. Why not take the Arcana Heart path, and just tone up low tiers and leave top tiers alone

I'm actually not looking forward to another version of the game, as I feel like it's very close to where it needs to be. But I dunno, another version would make me sad

Well, that's the entire point of this post. I've played strong Litchis and Valks back in CS. Both strong, but I never found them "broken" or even THAT powerful. Top tier materiel, yes, but with their weaknesses. But then again, as mentioned earlier, I haven't ran into any Kokos ._. Also, I love Star-Demon's post.

Well, no that's not all true. I forget his name (will need to look them up), but there are ST Akuma players that only play Akuma and those players are considered very good at the game. As for Pet Shop players, you might be right, I dunno. Yea, I understand where you're coming from on this statement. In +R, Kliff was proven too strong with the "adjustments" given to him, only to be patch shortly after... for arcades of course.

Yes, but there's a big differences between "dominating" and "broken". Some characters don't even get a chance to shine on tournaments and have been labeled broken, yet in those games they have dominating characters. EX Characters are banned due to be console Exclusive in Guilty Gear, yet back in the #Reload days Eddie totally dominated. In Super Turbo, Akuma didn't place to well in tournaments, but was considered broken by majority of players and decided to give the character a hard ban, yet O.Sagat dominated. Even when Akuma is allowed, he doesn't always win those tournaments.

I feel like this isn't a strong statement to go about this, as if we followed this rule of thumb, every character for every game would be allowed regardless of the situation due to certain countries being too weak.

Eeek, so she's considered a Check away from being broken? But for references, I know the best, characters who are banned outside of being console exclusive normally don't carry infinities on them. They're just very, very powerful characters. In fact, most games I've seen characters with infs tend to be low tier (think Melty Blood comes to mind how some mid-low tier characters had particular infs, but they were never considered the best). EDIT: Watching that video, TBF those other players were not very good. The Pet shop kept screwing up the unblockable setup, but the opponents kept eating the attack anyways (sometimes not even bother blocking it), and even woke up mashing at times. So this video can be very deceiving to those not familiar with JoJo. But, just like the ST Akuma thing stated earlier, there's been times Pet Shop has been allowed and didn't win the tournament. I remember a buddy always told me back then, "Even bad Pet Shops can lose" when new MvC2 players would pick MSP and except to be good day 1.

I appreciate all the feedback here. I only ask cause, running tournaments for this game people are bringing to my attention of this character's people and even speak of banning her. There's also been players around our area that learned Kokonoe for a good 3 weeks and quit her, following with the lines "she's too powerful, I can't" and so on. I've just recently purchase her yesterday, so I'll give her a go. But yeah, like I ask, what does make a character truly ban worthy, anyways? Honestly, I've never ran into this kind of debate before, since most of the time, after a few months after release it's sometimes determined to ban X character or not.

I think that's the thing everyone is kinda going off of, and waiting for any kind of nerf until she's "worthy of playing" kind of deal. I still remember the twitter posts from strong players in Japan saying how she was only a week or 2 old, and random players were beating Gods with this character. I don't know what the result of the matter is now, but watching some of those FT 10, 20, 50s, etc as of recent, seeing koko only lose 2 or 3 times against the best is a bit... troublesome. People do state it's only a matter until learning the match up, but she still seems just as powerful, so who knows. But, I don't the East worries about this issue since it seems they just ban console characters anyways (for the most part). I dunno. ...I guess in this case, what actually does make a character ban worthy? I know in a argument like this, people would bring up characters like Akuma from ST, but even when Akuma is allowed, the best Akuma players usually don't always win.

10k, what?! Is this real?!?!? I've heard somewhere around 7.8k, but when people tell me that, I assume it takes like a full OD or something.

Don't mean to sound rude, but these two things kinda makes any point you make completely invalid. She has a lot of health and... I'm asking those who actually play and wanting their feedback.

I guess in this case, for those who feel she's beatable, how do you feel she handles match ups across the board? From what I've read (all the complaining and what not), it's been stated that she has 8 - 2 Match Ups across the board. I can't tell if this is an over-exaggeration or not, but I'm actually not too familiar with Kokonoe to establish this. With that said, I suppose my question would be: What makes her Fair among those who disagree?

Most tournaments have those characters banned simply for the sake of tradition. Regardless of how weak or powerful the characters were, unless they were available on Arcade, most of the time Console Characters were banned. I believe Super Street Fighter 4 kinda broke this tradition, as it was a popular Fighting Game for Consoles only, allowing more content than that the arcade version had.

The Online is very inconsistent. And aside from learning minor thing about the match ups and seeing player's tricks, there's not much you can to adopt to the situation unless you take advantage of the latency yourself. But yeah, inconsistent is the key word. Basically what TheArm05 stated. But I can understand if your general area lacks an offline scene.

Unfortunately, as long as you're in America, you're going to have to ping through USA Sony servers to communicate with each other. The American PSN network forces delayed latency to control bandwidth usage a lot easier. Xbox Live of America does he same thing, except their capacity isn't as strict. In the end, if the game isn't asking for their Player's IP to connect, there will always be a slight delay among peers.

It seems as though there's been a lot of hate for this character from all over, people stating how this character is too powerful for this game or having Console Character Banned for the sake of keeping tradition. Though, I do feel that the character is "very powerful" and possibly the strongest character in the BB series, I was wondering how you guys feel about this since this may effect future events to come. Is this character so powerful that she'll need a ban? Perhaps banning Console Characters for the time being, going with old traditions? Allowing the character, as she is powerful, she isn't broken? Or whatever other questions arise. What's your opinion on this situation?

"Playing Online" That should actually answer your question.

Host this Friday and Saturday! :D

I wanna come to one of these meet ups. Is that okay? :3

When is you'lls next meet up?

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Ugh, I really wanted in on this. Work makes me sad

You should hit up our Austin FG for like... everything lol ;o https://www.facebook.com/groups/ATXFGC/

I never got invited ;_; I'll see if I can make it, but it all depends on work at the moment. I would asked for this Saturday off, but since I just started working there, well ya' know how people never ask the first 30 - 90 days off for a good impression, yadda yadda, all that jazz.

Rest assure, some slow downs are normal in the game as certain parts of the game will slow down even on the arcade version.