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I'll fix up the thread into a much easier to read format once I get some sleep. Just got back from the levelup event down here in SoCal. Turnout wasn't bad, like 90 people. Though I placed badly since I haven't actually played more than 10 matches against real people that aren't CPU or training dummies. But yeah I'll fix it up tomorrow.

That's the first bulletpoint in my first post But has anyone really tested this a lot? Does it work at any time to cancel you combo or does is specifically need to be put at the end in order to allow for the opponent to air tech? The dummy won't air tech it so I have to test it with the dummy record feature and that's just long annoying to do testing CH and FC and Normal hits and different combo lengths.

The stuff in the data thread is more like frame traps and things that while do fall under the category of oki I don't think it'll really fall into the gimmick area. And then on top of that the general thread can be cluttered with more than just oki or gimmicks and might be hard to go through for someone who just wants raw data on what to really do without having to read about general elizabeth things. I can see what you're saying though and lets just see if any discussion sparks from the thread at all. Since discussion is good for character development no matter what.

Lol but my Elizabeth is ass! Also I was running off a 48 hour xbox live gold card so that ran out. I'll probably get xbl gold within like a week. My arcade stick kinda sucks too because my dog likes to sit on it, I dunno how that screwed it up but one of the buttons needs to be hit hard. Lol. Toss me a friend request and we can throw some lobbies together when I do get gold, though. Make a West Coast (Freshest coast) lobby and shit.

TD Mentioned making this thread and I thought it was a really good idea. I mean it really doesn't go into the whole "combo" thread and neither does it go under the general elizabeth thread that well. Seeing as how Elizabeth does require getting into your opponent's mind and knowing how you keep them away from you, I'd say this warrants it's own thread. Delete this thread if it doesn't fall under the proper postings for this forum and all that. Now to the gimmicks! Stuff I have found: - If the enemy is in your combo and you're about to end it in the corner. Instead of doing the hard knockdown with a b.Bufu x2 > J.C you can attempt to end with a SB.Zio > 5C > J.D really quickly. Since a lot a people attempt to just tech whenever they're in a combo, this will catch most people. You can then wait for the wall bounce into 5B > 5C > 2C > B.Bufu > SB.Agi > 5B to bring them back into the corner. - When you catch someone with your 5C pressure we all know you can cancel after the first hit into a 5D. However if you delay it right when thanatos does the dash forward of the 2nd hit of the 5C you can cancel right in front of the opponent into a 5D. Making it look like thanatos was about to hit them and making most people reactively wait for the 2nd hit before getting grabbed. This obviously doesn't work well against people who mash 5A or 2A against thanatos. - Since a lot of people try to mash 2A against 5C a good followup is 2C because it has super armor. Everybody knows this, but just putting it out there for people who might be newer. - You can use Elizabeth's Mind charge as a semi invincible super into Ghastly Wail for free punishes on some characters. Namely Mitsuru. Go people! Discuss! If you want I will update this thread with whatever is written. or we can leave it as a thread for people to discuss resets, whatever.

I second the notion of the Oki/resets/gimmicks thread.

I have to block 3 moves. :D

My bad. About 90% of my questions are concerning Yu type difficulty and onwards, since that and Chie are the only dummy types I practice on. The other character Garu loops are easy enough I don't really ask. But yeah it just seems like I catch the opponent's character like a frame before they hit the ground if I do the crossup version of the garu. Instead of a couple frames to spare like I normally have with the regular garus.

Yeah I can do the [9~2] pretty confidently now twice in a row against just about everyone except Chie. Just more than 2 is just daunting, more than anything. I'm sure if I went into the lab for a little I'd get it down, though. But using a burst isn't something I like to do anyways, since Liz's damage is already crazy, lol. On a side note, have you been trying to do the [9~3] Crossup type d.Garu so you can switch sides if you catch yourself in a corner. I feel like the timing on that one is much harder, I dunno. Obviously using the special garu is much easier to cross up switch with, but I'm talking about just the plain Sweep > d.garu we all do.

I'd look for you in ranked matches, since I'd assume we'd have a good connection, but my xbox live gold just ran out. Lol.

That 10k damage combo has so many garus I'm scared to even attempt it. Getting the 2 garu loop is hard enough for me, at this point in time xD. Then again I am practicing on Yu dummy and Yu players, mainly. And Chie players. =.=

I have found that you can do the AOA > OMC > Ghastly Wail combo midscreen. I didn't know you could do it midscreen. I mean I can't think of an easy way to COMBO into it, since AOA has a lot of startup and it uses a lot of B. Bufu's freeze time, so you can't dash forward to do it. But still I didn't know it worked.

Yeah I'm just more inclined to do a combo such as 2A > 5B > Whatever instead of a 2A > 5AA. I feel that the proration would be worse. Since I do 2A a lot more than I do 5A lol.

How rare is the red name glitch? I've run into 1 red name, but it was that one guy who's famous for rage quitting in ranked so I dunno. What's his name? Thien something something. He's good, just rages sometimes. Kinda.

Someone rage quit on me because my combo was taking too long and then messaged me saying long combos were stupid. Oh dear, the netplay. On that topic, who loves how long Elizabeth's combos are, despite how she needs some real setups to get them going.

Rhyllis! My love! We meet again and playing the same character <3

I want to go to this but I don't have a car currently :<

Is 5AA > Sweep better proration than 5A > 5B > Sweep?

What will it be when people complain about week 2 Kanjis?

On a side note, what's the minimum damage that the coffin super can do with like max proration? Does this game have the minimum damage thing that BB had or what? That way I can know that spending whatever amount of health I had until awakening won't be accidently lost if I don't kill with the coffin super ender.

I have a question~ I was testing this combo here: 2C > B.Zio > 5B > 5C(2) > 2C > SB.Zio > 5C(2) > 2C > B.Bufu > (Concentrate) > AOA > OMC > Ghastly Wail [7582 DM] [125 SP] Anyways I did the combo but I only got 4.7k damage. Did I do something wrong? :o Edit: I did 7.5k damage. The reason I got 4.7k damage was because I had both me and my opponent in training mode in awakening mode. I think that reduces damage taken, right? My bad.

You mean I won't get as many free thanatos grabs to the point where I can throw someone 4 times in a row in 3 months?! Damn, I might have to step up my game. Maybe.

So I'm a scrub. Play against kanji > Don't know what he's doing walking towards me > It's his instant kill > Wiff move on invincible kanji > Die > Die inside as well.

Also means more of my financial aid money that's not going towards food and board. Lol

GG's to the people who stood to play with my scrubby Elizabeth.