Lil Sassy Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 These combos are really spinning my head right now.... I'm... kind of scared..... x_x Baby steps.
Arcade Fire87 Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 Andy's right. Been working tons of meterless combos for like 4500, but some of them are so situational and needed with right spacing and so hard to pull off in an actual fight that it's not like you can revolve your entire game play around it. You'd be really surprised how far Nu's basic combos get you online. If you're like the average runaway Nu you aren't going to set up these huge combos alot. Although, it's really good to know them just in case
germanturkey Posted November 13, 2009 Posted November 13, 2009 so is this Nu really good, or do i have low standards for "good"? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOYte2_60fE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QBlIPNkDdg&feature=related
Jet Set Dizzy Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 Lambchop vids are scarce. Hook me up plox.
Antihippy Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 We should have a video thread for lambda. Got a few good ones lately.
Arcade Fire87 Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 I don't have it up yet, but I had some games with one of the best players on XBL, Shadowredzero. I don't like a lot of the videos of me on youtube because they're pretty garbage and I've gotten loads better since. But, I'd kinda like some critiques of me, especially against really advanced Jins. I'm having some issues with his corner combo resets, with Nu's 2C being too slow, 6A being too slow, and 2B/5B only being able to get out of some situations. Can only think of using her 63214126 as a DP to counter Since there's not a lot of better Nu's on XBL, it'd be great to post the vids here and have some really good, or better players in general critique them and see what bad habits I have, what I need to do differently, what other techniques I could incoporate into my playing, etc. There's obvious mess ups in the fight I don't need pointed out. But yeah, whenever they come out (maybe tomorrow) it'd be great getting your input on how I'm playing against the superior player.
Jet Set Dizzy Posted January 5, 2010 Posted January 5, 2010 We should have a video thread for lambda. Got a few good ones lately. Well I would make one but I'm pretty irresponsible at upkeeping big threads. Somebody go for broke though.
kriaser Posted February 6, 2010 Posted February 6, 2010 Anyone feel like doing a critique on my Nu? Although these videos are from somewhere between 2-3 weeks old, they're a pretty good estimate on how I play in casuals. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnEFdtHY_T8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7oFKYQkras http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I3ou8zvV0o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mJfv600Ehc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBYPawPugwg For reference, me and mAc play for fun and exploration. There's a lot of things I wouldn't do normally if this was a tournament or ranked. In other words, when you see me do a full screen dash toward Haku, I'm aware of what I'm doing. I'm intentionally giving mAc counter practice or generally just dicking around because I get tired of zoning and feel like going melee. THAT ASIDE, feel free to drop me some notes. I do believe in these sets I was exploring how 214DC > 236DC would work against people in a lot of situations. Or just general mix ups using the saw blade in an excessive manner.
toanenadiz Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 Why don't you do more damage off when you get a CH 2147D? I know that 6C can be used once they hit the ground and i believe 214A can be used while they are falling to do a nice combo. don't those follow-ups do more than your 2D follow-up? if you could get a 214DC out, wouldn't it be better to follow it and go for a 50/50 instead of pressuring with 236DC? and you were really good at the jC cross over. i was stunned at how easy you made it seem. i still can't get it to hit that consistently.
kriaser Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 At the time of these videos, I wasn't used to using sabers in a very offensive manner, so getting a CH with it, I wasn't fully aware of what combo options I had available. I've been working on them since though. Also, the idea behind 214DC > 236DC was to see if I could get the 236DC to hit first before the 214DC hit, maybe causing a fun combo. In other words, I'm just dicking around. Those video sets were the only time I've used that. I've stopped since because it wouldn't work the way I wanted/hoped. jC cross over is just something that comes with being excessively melee. It took a while to get the full hang of it, but having someone like mAc around helped a lot to get it down.
toanenadiz Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 I figured you were testing something, but i thought i had better mention it anyways. You also did 632146D in situations where it got blocked and punished. Did you just start using it as a reversal those matches? And i know the feeling of hoping my experiments would work and then having them fail. Your idea actually sounded smart, though. It's a shame it didn't work.
kriaser Posted February 7, 2010 Posted February 7, 2010 mAc knows my 632146D reversals. He can bait it rather often but other times he'll forget and use a 5C or something with longer recovery time. It's still worth learning the timing of it because it's still handy.
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 Alright, I watched three of them. Hm, it's not that you have tons of flaws, it's more that you're just missing a lot of things and not utilizing Nu's tools enough to really bring things out of her. For one. You need to seriously mix up D strings. I saw you do some TK wheels, so you got that set. You need to start doing 5DD>4DD>TK wheel. That hits like crazy retarted on people. You also never did 5DD>236. This is such an incredibly useful tool, especially when you have some RC. Once you start doing: 5DD>4DD>236 5DD>236 5DD>4DD>TK wheel and 5DD>4DD>TK feint>move of your choice I also personally love doing some 5DD>4DD>TK feint>5DD/6DD string again Start implementing these. You've now seriously become a mindfuck. Your opponents can no longer be like, "block high, high, low!" You now have them snapped out of auto pilot. It's frustrating, because not a single Nu on XBL has taken this piece of advice that I've give to them. I guarantee just doing this more will win you 10 percent more of your games. Also, you're sorta in the mindset I was a while ago, "I don't need j.2DD~C>j.2DD". Actually, this is really critical, and with Lambda's nerfed drive, you're gonna seriously need to start doing this more, Minori abuses the fuck out of it. Go to training, and don't leave it until you have your j.2DD's set perfectly If you can mix it up with j.2Ds, you now have options to do: j.2dd~C>j.2dd>236D j.2dd~C>j.2dd>dash>2C>pressure string of your choice j.2dd~C>j.2dd>3C>4500 meterless damage combo j.2dd~C>j.2dd>5DD>combo pressure of your choice j.2dd~C>j.2dd>6DD (For the one's wising up to your mixups) Hmmm, also if you're ever pinned in the corner like that, do NOT do 3C, that shit will get you kicked in the face at times if they block up close while your backed into a corner, use a 2B>2C or some sort of string that will be able to get you out of that corner from pulsar. Also, trying doing more 2C's>Back dash>j.2DD combo pressure/mixup stuff. Hmmm. What else? Oh! Rush up with some 6A's! 6A>2C/TK wheel 6A>2C/3C I liked that you did the oki TK wheel. Try doing some more of that (sometimes gets me in trouble too, of course). Ummm, rushing with an oki TK feint into 2C gets nets me some CH's too. Or ya could try oki TK feint>3C>big ass meterless combo Oh! Mix in tons of oki grab ups in your pressure. Try doing more 2B's while they're laying down, if they roll forward or don't tech you can hit them with 2B>j.C>j.2C>236 or extent it with RC>6C>j.DD>j.236 And just advice against Haku, don't even bother doing 236236 unless hit confirmed with 5DD first, it's such a waste on him. Also, I wouldn't really follow up with the pulsars against him, just back off. Smart one's will counter you, it's really not worth it, keep the pulsar>3C/2C/6C to a minimum against Hakumen players. I wish youtube didn't have videos of me playing terribly, I didn't use any of the advice I gave you at the time I played with those videos up. Changed my entire playing and mixup pressure it, for the better too
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 19, 2010 Posted February 19, 2010 Alright. Well, last night, Mac and I played a shitload of games, 20 games of 3 rounds, with great connection since we live relatively close. I have to say, Mac was a LOT better than I expected and remembered him to be, and definitely one of the best Hakumen's online. He has the matchup figured out pretty well, I couldn't get a single 5DD>4DD>TK on him once. He was also one of the first opponents I've ever had that didn't fall for a single TK feint>grab combo. Hell, he managed to get out of a lot of 2B>dash>grab. He and I were having moments where we were grabbing and teching multiple times within seconds But I was right about mixing it up with more j.2DD. You should try boxing your opponents in the corner more in general, Mac was under a lot of pressure with that. He had me wondering if I needed to change up some things, but that might be me being very wreckless and predictable. He was nailing me with a lot of 3C's, but it's a double edged sword, he ate damage when blocked. Hopefully he uploads some of the fights. There's a few really unflattering fights in those 20 games where I was messing up TK's right and left and getting frustrated with myself, resulting in more mess ups. I kept more of the pressure on him and stayed close unless I was down in health, then I ran like a bitch
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Alright, here's a few of the matchups with Mac Chaos and I. We had about 22 games so this is just some. Heheheh, he didn't necessarily show the vids of me dominating and uploaded the closer fights, but I'm still really grateful to him for uploading recent stuff with me in it. Fair warning, these were some of the games I made the most mistakes in and had the most flaws, judge kindly. Oh, and also, my Nu looks like a hamster strung up from aderol and or speed. I'm a pretty wreckless Nu player, and still kinda learning how to use spike chasers well for in anticipation for Lambda. Was heavily influenced by Reria but not sure if my style reflects that Game 1:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/8/z1ln1HmJrmU Game 2:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/5/qzTy8lADlSg Game 3:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/4/6qS_s58JKmo Game 4:Arcade Fire87 v. Mac Chaos http://www.youtube.com/user/mAcularChaotic#p/u/3/AgqP4bqIw10
toanenadiz Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Nice matches. I'm not a very good Nu so my advice might be misguided, but I don't think spike chaser is that good of a move to use against Hakumen. I've seen a Hakumen just IAD jC perfectly through it every time regardless of our positions at the time. And if he doesn't jump through it, he can just counter it if you attempt to rush him down. And in CS, Hakumen can just cut through it, giving himself that projectile eater. And I can't tell if Mac Chaos was countering you on prediction or reaction, but maybe you should try to delay the timings of your rush down. They sometimes seemed to know exactly when you would attack and punished you for it. And isn't generally a bad thing to use your swords at the minimum distance against a Hakumen with stars? Mac Chaos seemed to do his command dash after blocking/countering your 5D and hit you with a combo. Once again, I'm not a very good Nu and would like to know if my thinking is wrong in this advice.
tuka Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 I'm a pretty wreckless Nu player Exactly, and that's why you mess up so much. It looks like your'e in such a hurry, even when doing combos like j.C > j.2C > dj.C > j.2C you let the j.C only hit once when it can hit 8 times for significantly more damage. Anyway, some point of advice: - Zone more, less rushdown ESPECIALLY against Hakumen, Let him come to you. Don't forget the he must come to you, he has no other way of inflicting damage (and that applies to most characters in the game). - Take your time, I saw so many failed TK's and combos just because you input things so fast. - 2C and 2DD as anti-airs for 5000-6500 damage combos. - DO NOT DO 214D FROM POINT BLANK! - You abuse 5D too much against Hakumen, since his most reliable way of getting closer is from the air, you should switch to 6D and 2D. - In the air you do j.DD > dj.DD > j.214D, start using j.DD > dj.2DD > j.214D, the 2DD gets the opponent closer so you won't up as much. - The game is out for so long and your'e still doing Throw > 5DD? Nu's so ridiculously easy and you should really learn her best combos..
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Yeah, Tone, I'm really coming to find spike chaser is not too great against Hakumen. I've been trying to get used to just doing it again, to be honest. But there was one where it looked like Mac IAD straight through it and kinda left me like, "huh?" You're definitely right about that one. You're pretty right about my rushdowns, I really do need to be...less predictable? I think I'm rushing from too far away sometimes, so he can easily just counter some of it, I'm sure part of it is definitely prediction too. I'm not 100 percent sure what to do though And yeah, Tuka, I know I should be doing more than grab>5D, I think I'm kinda worried about dropping more than I already do, especially with lag at my college (no lag was present in these games though). Sometimes I do rush the whole j.C too much, usually I squeeze as much I can though BUT, again. You also have to understand Mac and I played 22 games, and these were specifically the one's where I said to myself, "man, I hope these aren't the one's he uploads in our fights!" You were seeing the games that were a lot closer and I was making the most mistakes, there were quite a few games where I rushed Mac all game without getting hit, and there were there shares of perfects too. These were also the games I whiffed TK's the most, I was getting pretty frustrated with myself in some of these matches. Mac is a great Hakumen player so he definitely punished me hard when I did make mistakes And the close up 214D's were also results of failed TK's, I'd never do a 214D that close up purposely. BUT, watching this and your advices' is showing me that spike chaser isn't wise to do in this matchup and probably won't be in CS either, this was something I'd been playing with as of recent. I didn't realize I should do fewer 5D's. I was trying to use them as pokes, or 5DD>236. Hmm, Mac did say Severin mainly used j.2DD's against him, wonder if maybe that's what I should start doing? Like, how would I go about this Tuka? do I just poke with a ton of j.2DD's? I think you're pretty right about that, I'm gonna have to try to implement that more Ooops, and you are also right about me doing things too fast! There were times I could have squeezed 3000/4000 damage moves from 3C's or 2C's/6A's, but IAD so quick that I missed oppurtunities for major damage. I'm wondering how I stop myself from doing this as often though, I'm trying so hard to mess with their heads with the pokes that sometimes I really miss big oppurtunities here. Mac is a really great Hakumen, I'm happy to say I won 21 out of 22 games, considering how awesome is he. I really do need to try to slow things down a little. I dunno If I'll zone more though, that just doesn't fit me anymore.
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Anyway, Mac was nice enough to upload a few against me and some Jins, I uploaded them so I don't mind them, they aren't terribly fancy games on my part, but I did pretty well, a lot less mistakes here, though a few whiffed TK's, and a really huge chance for a meaty 3C combo. I think this shows me zoning a lot more, probably because I'm so terrified from being corner trapped by the particular character. Jin and Bang are my worst matchups personally, so if there's things I'm missing here, would definitely help Arcade Fire v. Serpentine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSF7GuJOJ4E Arcade Fire v. Leonil http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWakrzgIMgQ
toanenadiz Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Is the Throw > 5DD combo that bad? I can get about 3800 damage from it and I also find it easier to punish bursts using the throw > 5DD combo than the dash one. And the throw dash combo Goryus posted does 3881 damage, so isn't the throw > 5DD better in some situations? Unless there another dash combo that does more damage?
tuka Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 And yeah, Tuka, I know I should be doing more than grab>5D, I think I'm kinda worried about dropping more than I already do. Okay, so you'll drop the first 10-30-50-70-100 times, and then you won't, you do realize Nu has 6000+ damage meterless combos while your'e barely scratching 4K with meter? Do you have anything to lose by trying? BUT, again. You also have to understand Mac and I played 22 games, and these were specifically the one's where I said to myself, "man, I hope these aren't the one's he uploads in our fights!" Worried about reputation? YouTube reputation no less? If someone has something to say make him prove it by playing you. j.2DD Yeah that's awesome. I'm trying so hard to mess with their heads... ...that you mess up your own Mac is a really great Hakumen, I'm happy to say I won 21 out of 22 games, considering how awesome is he. Not to underrate the player, but you do realize that going by match-ups alone that's one of the worst in the game? It's so ridiculously one sided that even when you mess up (and by those four specific vids, you did) you should still have very little problem. Now think about that when you learn her real combos and stop messing up.. I dunno If I'll zone more though, that just doesn't fit me anymore. Well then your'e playing the character wrong. Not that it's so bad considering she's ass broken but if you want to play Lambda in CS you'll have to take in mind that she's a zoning character.
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 - 2C and 2DD as anti-airs for 5000-6500 damage combos. Mac didn't upload the fights of me doing combos in the 5000-6000 damage range
mAc Chaos Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 I would have uploaded more, but it was taking forever as it was... I had like 15 matches, and I had to watch them first, then go back and record the ones I thought were worth uploading... but then I lost track of which ones I'd seen since they're all labeled the same. So then I noticed the last four were pretty close and just uploaded those. But yeah, you shouldn't worry about what people think of you. In general. But in BlazBlue anyone who knows you should already have a good idea of your skill level so random videos aren't going to change their minds. And even if it did, what matters is how you play, and improving yourself, not whether people think you're good. Goodness is relative, after all, and it's just XBOX Live. If you want to be proud, simply be proud of your discipline and effort, not popular opinion. Actually, I do have one or two more videos I recorded, I think...
Arcade Fire87 Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 It's ok, Mac. Haha, it hurts my nerdy gaming pride, but going around and thinking I'm the shit!!! won't help me get better. I don't particuarly LOVE the criticism, but they are right, and the only way I'll get better is if people can view things in an unbiased view so they can tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I need to do better. I think I'm probably gonna drop 214D~C against Haku unless it's full screen, and I'll probably just limit the spike chasers in general and rarely do the ~C version. I'm still trying to get used to doing more 214D's in general I appreciate you just uploading the games, there hasn't been any recent vids of me in months
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