PozerWolf Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 I'm using Tager and I cannot beat Jin for the life of me. Please help!! [Mike Z's translation: "I'm a Jin player and I want to know how to fight against Tager! Please post all your strategies so I can learn how to counter them!"]
JinSaotome Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 Press buttons oh and Jin players are scrubs so spam tick busters and make people call you cheap
Shining Aquas Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 I'm thinking something like "bait DP's with Sledge, absorb ice shots with magnet charge", but I don't play either character so don't quote me for truth.
Fu11m3t41 Posted June 16, 2009 Posted June 16, 2009 Step 1: Grab. Step 2: Bait into AC. Step 3: Gatling into AC. Step 4: ??? Step 5: Profit!
Thunder Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 Close in with Sledge, and then combo him for MASSIVE SOVIET DAMAGE! Well, that's how I do it. Also, Magnet Ball.
craz Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 When he does the ice riding thing with the slash after: A,A, ect ect. I have yet to have anyone beat me after that.
Tiamat Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I played this matchup for about an hour today. Some observations... Jin has a lot of moves that count as projectiles such as his 5D/2D which he may use in strings, so you can try to predict them and go through them with sledge. Obviously this is good for tager. any place ragna can DP (strings like 5C > 236A and such) jin can DP as well with his 623C. lastly, sometimes you can do jC from distance if you think he'll ice car and smack him on CH for a combo. if you block the second hit I think 360B is free provided you are in range, don't know if you need instant block or not but it wouldn't hurt
Osuna Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 I actually lost like an idiot because I kept trying to punish the second hit of the ice car with 360A which wiffs without magnetism and gives him enough time to jump apparently, so I have some doubts that 360B would land even on IB with it's much shorter range. However it would be really cool, so I think I'll check training mode tonight, unless someone wants to do it for me.
Mike Z Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 You can punish regular 2-hit ice car with 360B, and you can surely punish IB'd ice car with it. Do it a lot earlier than you think.
Tiamat Posted July 4, 2009 Posted July 4, 2009 urgh I posted wrong info so I edited it out, according to me actually trying it on training mode jin's jB is not instant overhead vs tager. I thought for sure it was happening in my matches... edit: WHAT DO I DO ABOUT iad jB?!?! that junk is RAPING me
Osuna Posted July 5, 2009 Posted July 5, 2009 You can punish regular 2-hit ice car with 360B, and you can surely punish IB'd ice car with it. Do it a lot earlier than you think. I'm getting it now, thanks a lot. Also, I once accidently blocked both hits of ice car with XYH, and land a 360B right after. Is that something that can be done consistently or was I just lucky he didn't jump or something? Does the end of the charge keep the armor?
Petrovich112 Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 The XYH can be done really consistently but is just really a pain to do when you can normal block it and get the same result. Plus the XYH is a little tricky to time the grab out of if the Jin follows with something like 5a or the mash C.
blargster Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 that ice car punish works so good! but right after the first or second time... the 3rd time they do it, i psychic 623c cuz their ass wants AWAY from you and that sexy grab =D if the 623c fails and you get hit.. ah well.. just keep doing the 360b each time cuz they just dunno what to do
Mike Z Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 Um, the 360B will catch them out of their recovery, without Jin having a chance to attack you. I'm not sure why you'd choose to do something that 1) isn't guaranteed and 2) would give them a chance to hit you instead. :^)
taokaka Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 How is this a hard matchup. unless you get a truely good jin player who knows how to fight a tager.. you wont have a problem... i meen they leave themself open for punishment everytime they ride there little ice block over to you and try to hit you over the head lol..
Tiamat Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 a smart Jin player isn't going to be doing ice car much against Tager also...after testing again...jin jB IS an instant overhead but he cannot forward jump into it normally. he must jump straight up or do a dash jump into jB at the correct range to instant overhead tager with his jB
Plasma Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 It's not entirely reliable (but really, it's the only option for anti-airing Jin), but I've found 2A to actually work sometimes as an anti-air to Jin's air-dash approaches, since he seems like one of the few characters that doesn't have a long range jumping slash attack. Your ducking in the process so unless he's close to the ground during his jump, he probably won't hit you unless he's directly above you when he could hit you with jumping D or C. Jin's jumping B doesn't seem like it hits below him so you shouldn't get hit by it hopefully. Only problem is Tager's 2A is so freaking slow and you kinda have to anticipate him dashing toward you before hand.
Tiamat Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 what pisses me off about 2A is that even if it air CHs them the 5C followup misses half the time because of height. it makes me ARGH and jin's jB certainly hits below him, see my comments about it being instant overhead
Catastrophy Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 A Jin that knows what he's doing only Ice Car A to move up for combos or does the other Ice Cars during combos. The ones that use it to attack you at full screen obviously are asking for a grab.
taokaka Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 even the ones who only minorly ice car are still idiots... lol
Tiamat Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 you shouldn't assume that all Jin players are idiots -_-
thehuntsmen5434 Posted July 8, 2009 Posted July 8, 2009 I'm having Jin problems too. His pressure game is just too much. I can't seem to find a opening even if I INCLUDE the backdash at the right time. If I use push block he just gains enough distance to either A. use a projectile, B. Use a drive move, C. use any of his C moves which give him distance and I can't interrupt with 5a. I'm really at a loss. He's just way too fast, at least Ragna has openings if he messes up a move. But Jin has 3 forms of ice car if he wants to do mix ups all day. And not like it matters Tager Doesn't really have any combos out of spamming a few 5A's. So if I go for the Buster and they have the knowledge when their combos end they just get out of it everytime. IMBA
Mike Z Posted July 9, 2009 Posted July 9, 2009 Your (A) and (B) options for Jin can both be beaten with BSledge. Also, pretty much any time you could backdash, you could have just done a straight 360A instead. As well, off 5A spam you can do 5B xx Shot, and go from there.
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