Moy_X7 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Oh yeah, how could I forget about 6C > DC > (dashing) 5C side swap? I've never done the DP D > RC > dashing 2B that you just mentioned, I would have never thought about doing that That's the thing though, just when am I supposed to DP if I'm expecting a tick Buster? Some Tagers do tick Busters after a single 5A, others do it after about three 5As. Hell, there are others who would go for tick Buster resets instead of following up with a combo. That's why I don't like fighting Tagers, it's all a huge mindfuck. What I need to do is up my zoning game so that I don't have to worry about that crap until after I get magnetized by Spark Bolt or whatever
CaelSeraphim Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Please Critique my Jin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILhRbADh_T4 First things first: - I dont know what the hell i was thinking at 6C > Yukikaze. 623D attempt gone wrong. - I 623C way too much. - I 6C too much. - I make poor combo choices.
Moy_X7 Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Yeah, I lol'd at 6C > Yukikaze, Bleh, you're usually much better than this when you play against me. Your hit-confirming took a deep dive in this match, that and the things you did hit-confirm weren't followed up with the proper combo. Lots of random stuff going on here, I know that you're better than this so I'll just have to go ahead and say that this is definitely one of your worst matches.
xlolxlolx Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 That's the thing though, just when am I supposed to DP if I'm expecting a tick Buster? Some Tagers do tick Busters after a single 5A, others do it after about three 5As. Hell, there are others who would go for tick Buster resets instead of following up with a combo. That's why I don't like fighting Tagers, it's all a huge mindfuck. What I need to do is up my zoning game so that I don't have to worry about that crap until after I get magnetized by Spark Bolt or whatever lolz...yeah sometimes you either have to mash, guess, or watch them like a hawk if you wanna do it the hard way j.c rapes tager if you space yourself correctly, like j.a>falling j.c will keep them at a distance and air ice sword air dash j.c covers a huge distance @cael uhh....you need to work alot on hit confirming and execution, 6c is godly if you know how to use it like a beast(fadoogle :P), 623c is always a gamble, if you hit it you'll get out of pressure for free, if you whiff or if they block then you die yeah...look on that combo thread.....wherever that is now biggest thing you need to work on is your followups after hit confirming imo....like learn when antiair 6c>dc>5c won't reach and react to it so you will do something like antiair 6c>dc>j.c>j.d>6c>dc>5c>sjc>j.2c>j.214c(don't take my word for this combo since im just putting stuff that shud work together)
CaelSeraphim Posted January 23, 2011 Posted January 23, 2011 Yeah that video isnt very current of my "abilities", if you will. I've long since learned better hit confirming, the only issue i still have is... DP'ing too often in a match. I dont have any more recent vids -_- FML.
xHarukashii Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYCqTUWWtUM finally got me new recorder.
Nini Heart Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 Burst bait fails, bad opponent. Nothing much else to say. Plus it's a 3 month old vid >.>
CaelSeraphim Posted February 9, 2011 Posted February 9, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYCqTUWWtUM finally got me new recorder. your opponent was either very passive or didnt care for winning. A good Ragna would ID the hell out of such a hyper Jin.You need to calm down, and not jump around so often. You also need better combos. You wasted 25 meter for 236D on a combo that was bluebeat and was over 20 hits. Never go for more than a 20 hit combo with Jin, by that point its techable. Also... fight better opponents, Ragna vs Jin should never be that easy for Jin unless you're fighting a total scrub. But like Nini said, Old vid. I hope you've gotten somewhat better. I'm not gonna assume you still play this way anymore.
xlolxlolx Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 暴れ、暴れ、暴れ、暴れ、暴れ、暴れ、暴れ、暴れ、暴れぇ・・・・・・・・herp derp my god that guy was just bored i think, you throw out plenty of obvious j.b crossups that he could air throw/ID easily. lolololol@those ch 6c dc barriers
Moy_X7 Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 You wasted 25 meter for 236D on a combo that was bluebeat and was over 20 hits. Never go for more than a 20 hit combo with Jin, by that point its techable. Also... fight better opponents, Ragna vs Jin should never be that easy for Jin unless you're fighting a total scrub. Err... I believe that he was going for a 3C > 236D setup, it would have been a legit combo had he not gone for a dashing 6C after Sekkajiin. There's no reason for him to do that unless his fighting Rachel, Mu, or Arakune since they're out of 2D's range if you don't use dashing 6C > 2D. That or if he's going for the 5B > 5C > Sekkajin > (dashing) 6C > DC > 5C > 2C > sJC > j.C > j.D > AD > cross-under j.D/j.236D reset. Which goes on to the next point... What kind of resets were you trying to go for? I saw 5C > 2C > sJC > random ass AD > j.D. It worked once because he was mashing but I didn't see that thing cross-him up even once. You gotta ease down on those Burst baits, I fucking lol'd when you managed to "read" his last Burst and still got hit by it because you stopped blocking for some reason. I also lol'd when you tried to go for a 3C > 236D reset but you mistimed the 2B and still continued what would have been 2B > 5C > DP B > corner stuff XD
xHarukashii Posted February 10, 2011 Posted February 10, 2011 (edited) I was being really gimmicky and timed those resets wrong, as for the blue beat and droped combos lol netplay. the empty 6c ch was trying to bait. Edited February 12, 2011 by xHarukashii
xHarukashii Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Some more random replays i decided to upload. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaT3NOecp-4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3h1kqq94RM if anyone plays xbl and wants to do some jin mirrors hit me up.
Nini Heart Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Bad hitconfirm, bad abare, bad use of meter, too much jumping around the place. I like the fact that you can do the 623C CH>follow up combo though. Even japanese players drop it. Then again, what's the point of uploading videos almost half a year old?
xHarukashii Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 testing out quality and i dont really got any new replays, ive been wanting to get in some more matches but ive been pretty tired this whole week.
Moy_X7 Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 Then again, what's the point of uploading videos almost half a year old? ^^This, that first video was a bunch of randomness. I did like the fact that you used that Forward Throw > dash under > reverse 6C gimmick. Too bad that you couldn't follow up that 6C combo properly :/ The second match was a big improvement, there were some things that you didn't follow-up properly but it still turned out to be a pretty decent match.
xHarukashii Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 do you guys think i rely on tricks too much? my style is more gimicky and baiting.
Nini Heart Posted February 12, 2011 Posted February 12, 2011 You do rely a lot on those, but it's not necessarily a bad thing seeing how jin has a LOT of gimmicks ranging from bad to gdlk. Just beef up your hitconfirm and use your meter better. Your style is fine as is imo.
CaelSeraphim Posted February 13, 2011 Posted February 13, 2011 do you guys think i rely on tricks too much? my style is more gimicky and baiting. yes you rely on lots of gimmicks, that's good, you just seem to employ the wrong tactics in certain match ups. Overall, your Jin is good, just work on your hit confirms, and combo choices.
xHarukashii Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) oh okay, thanks alot. Edited February 20, 2011 by xHarukashii
xHarukashii Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 some more match vids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVskmIb7lGw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFaguFcR7k0
CaelSeraphim Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) 2nd vid: Mix up at 2:02 to 2:04 was crispy. i think you were trying to be really flashy in that match cause I saw hella illegitimate stuff going on, like j.236D midscreen and the opponent wasn't close to you, dropping combos for cross-ups, etc. I noticed you go for RC, 8, j.B after a blocked 214B/C. I prefer RC, 66, j.B, j.2C into blockstrings just too keep my pressure advantage. j.B after 8 is a little predictable and gives the opponent lots of time to react. Edited February 20, 2011 by CaelSeraphim
xHarukashii Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 (edited) not sure about the icecar>rc>8>Jb stuff i was doing that alot that day for some reason xD but i find, icecar>rc>66 really preditable and can easily be ib dp or anybody could mash a normal out to counter it. i think. icecar>rc>2b/6a/improvise, is really tricky. and yeah crossup j.b>2a>6a/improvise, is a really good gimmick people tend to fall for the mix up all the time. Edited February 20, 2011 by xHarukashii
CaelSeraphim Posted February 20, 2011 Posted February 20, 2011 not sure about the icecar>rc>8>Jb stuff i was doing that alot that day for some reason xD but i find, icecar>rc>66 really preditable and can easily be ib dp or anybody could mash a normal out to counter it. i think. icecar>rc>2b/6a/improvise, is really tricky. and yeah crossup j.b>2a>6a/improvise, is a really good gimmick people tend to fall for the mix up all the time. eh... RC, 66, is better but you can also RC the 2nd hit for 3C knockdown instead, also a good gimmick. In comparison to RC, 8, j.B its less predictable, that Hakumen made you pay for it many times.
xHarukashii Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 Match set between me and Dest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbaVDtS8QTw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1EcXXuw_do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_Z1vNRiNY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=872hbxw9Txw
xHarukashii Posted March 12, 2011 Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) sup guys more uploaded matches critique or enjoy the matches. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdu-Ub-a6Zo&feature=channel_video_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfuOxdNmjKk&feature=channel_video_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAqFJ5TyMJA&feature=channel_video_title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhaC5NYy2Wc&feature=channel_video_title edit: links are fixed, that was weird. Edited March 12, 2011 by xHarukashii
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