[CT-CSE] Critique my Jin Thread. Post videos of yourself playing and get advice

[Marauder]

He can use some CT-esque combos on Tager. 5C> j.B actually works on him.

[xlolxlolx]

It would be better to 5c>j.2C>j.C instead of j.B for more damage.

[SadSoul]

Hi I'm new to fighting games in general and this video is one of my first matches online. It was kinda laggy but I won't blame that for my suckiness.

I can already see from the replay that I need to learn more combo's, but beyond that is there anything I should do with my Jin? Was I too aggressive/not aggressive enough?

Any tips on playing fighters in general?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06LqDm9-3LE

Also, what happens at 1:12 was a TOTAL FLUKE.

[Aureliano]

First time I'm posting a video of myself playing...it's BBCS by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4bk_zu-7U#t=3m25s

This is a tourney, so I was a bit nervous (especially against Tager...)

Lots of hit-unconfirm, lol. Definitely need to work on hit confirm...

Yukikaze is a waste of meter, especially in the corner like that. In the same situation a 623D would have been saver and would have gotten you more damage since you were like right next to the corner.

[Roldy]

Sadsoul: If you want to spam Jin's DP's, make it 623A or 623B instead of 623C (do you understand number pad notation?). 623C is slow and easy to counter if on whiff or block. Even then, don't spam too much. It's easy to see the moves coming. Using 2A to poke is alright though. Your opponent was also not very experienced, so you probably don't realize that you could have been punished a lot.

Never use 214A/B/C (ice car) to approach. No problems with aggression, just learn combos. Try not to put in too many A's into your combo, they lower damage significantly.

Never use C-mash outside of combos.

And don't worry, 1:12 would be difficult to react to, even with experienced players, lol.

Aureliano: Thanks for the tip. I was way too nervous and saw a nice, big 5D coming from Tager, so I just did what I thought of first. But yeah, you're definitely right.

[Leonil_Requiem]

First time I'm posting a video of myself playing...it's BBCS by the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4bk_zu-7U#t=3m25s

This is a tourney, so I was a bit nervous (especially against Tager...)

Lots of hit-unconfirm, lol. Definitely need to work on hit confirm...

Honest, fighting your most lopsided match-up is difficult to critique, but I highly suggest more reverse Gatling pressure such as

5C (at distance) > IAD > j.B or j.A > j.A or j.B> xN to the floor

You can tick throw on landing if j.A is the last move to Block stun them. As for j.B as the right height you can get true air to ground block strings off.

But you have a nice jin, put a little more effort into getting your opponent into the corner for better mix up, things like D ice swords early in block string into run pushes, tick 2A green throws while the sword is still coming, overhead cover, free jump ins. it works wonders on moving your opponent. one of his most viable gimmicks if you ask me.

[greg]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-u8UQenZJA

The whole recording thing was a joke because we were trash talking each other before hand, and thought I'd post it up anway. Sooo, I never really got too deep into ct and just picked up jin again when cs came out. I know that I'm pretty terrible and I need a lot of help, so hopefully you guys can give me some tips. Also I had been playing this guy for a while, that's why I was playing so scared. lol

edit*

I've been trying to use 2a as my anti-air, but against ragna it has been getting demolished. I also suck at instant blocking and keep eating combos for it. I always hit forward before back because sf3s for some reason. T.T

What is the best way to not get caught up in a blue beat combo? I feel like such an idiot when I let people blue beat me or fall for silly resets, etc.

[xlolxlolx]

go look up corner combos and try to save your meter for them, don't do CH 5C>6C>2D>6B>sekkajin>632146D so often since the damage is terribad for 50 heat unless you're certain you'll get the kill like u did in round 2

2A AA is fail on ragna cuz his j.C can beat it

if you cant IB well then dont attempt it unless youre prepared to lose?

mash A+B while holding 4 so you get a barrier block after you tech out this is important for air techs

you're better than most beginners you needa learn how to do 623D unblockable 2nd hit reset, 236D reset, high to low mixups, frame traps, and proration on jin's attacks

oh and work on hit confirms

[smooshman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-u8UQenZJA

missed a lot of hit confirms off 5C CH, saw too much of 5C>2D (I do that too much too) where it shouldn't be....

and don't worry about that astral..... my 623D got beat by it.....

[greg]

go look up corner combos and try to save your meter for them, don't do CH 5C>6C>2D>6B>sekkajin>632146D so often since the damage is terribad for 50 heat unless you're certain you'll get the kill like u did in round 2

2A AA is fail on ragna cuz his j.C can beat it

if you cant IB well then dont attempt it unless youre prepared to lose?

mash A+B while holding 4 so you get a barrier block after you tech out this is important for air techs

you're better than most beginners you needa learn how to do 623D unblockable 2nd hit reset, 236D reset, high to low mixups, frame traps, and proration on jin's attacks

oh and work on hit confirms

I can actually do the corner loop, but I couldn't set it up on that guy so I resorted to using that combo even though it sucks so bad for 50 heat. I honestly don't worry about meter with jin that much, because the loop in itself builds almost the bar you need to use it, but I definitely get what you're saying. What are some good frame traps to set it up with? I usually will do 5c, 6c, 6d if they're blocking in the corner, but it's so unsafe because ragna will just hit me with his 5b anytime I do that. I'm sure it's gimmicky to do anyway. Lol. So, what are some good ones? What do you mean by 623 d 2nd hit reset? Like wait for them to be unfrozen then hit with the 2nd hit? After getting that throw into the corner could I have followed it up with 5b, 36 xx 236d? Also, I usually like to do 214d to take them to the corner, but a lot of the times I try it, my opponent will fly behind me after the first hit of the ice car. How can I prevent this?

missed a lot of hit confirms off 5C CH, saw too much of 5C>2D (I do that too much too) where it shouldn't be....

and don't worry about that astral..... my 623D got beat by it.....

I know, man! That 5c 2d is such a terrible habit that I'm building... It just seems so great to me for some reason because a lot of people online aren't good enough to punish me for it. lol.

Thank you guys for the input

After watching the video again, it's pretty obvious how bad he wanted astral finish me. I think that's the only reason I won the 2nd round. What do you guys think are some good pressure tactics against ragna or in general? Also what do you guys default on for aa's on ragna? 5a has been working pretty good for me, but it doesn't have head invuln..

*edit*

wtf? 5a?? I meant 5c lol

[smooshman]

What do you guys think are some good pressure tactics against ragna or in general? Also what do you guys default on for aa's on ragna? 5a has been working pretty good for me, but it doesn't have head invuln..

personally, I run the fuck away from Ragna and throw swords at him..... his pokes are just to gdlk to deal with.... as for aa's.... 623A/B.... and....uh....JC, JC is your only real way to beat him in the air. 5B and 5C could work with the right spacing. Ragna's a pain in the ass to fight

[xlolxlolx]

hey gaiz sekkajin launch>5C or 6C>623D 1st hit throws him out of range u kno? j.B can beat him in air but nothing to really follow up with unless you're really close to ground and 623B is ur best friend in this matchup for the most part and bait wake up ID so you get a free counter hit 6C or 5C

[StriderHoang]

Hay guize. Long time lurker as a guest at dustloop, but decided to finally register since I started recording matches (I like to call it Double HD = HD Camera + HDTV). Out of all the matches I wanted to post first, I decided to go on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoKs8WT3jbE

One thing I definitely want advice about. I'm absolutely horrible at keeping pressure and blockstrings IMO. I go for a normal gatling and typically either go for icecar B or j.B. j.B > j.A when I'm feeling adventurous! But yeah, that's all I got when it comes to staying on them.

[Yuushiro]

too much unnecessary jc...

random supers..., random ice car...

you need to end your combo more with a knockdown...

try to use throw once in a while and against arakune use more DP and stop jumping so much

[StriderHoang]

I guess that means some kind of sekkajin > icecar C combo then. Well, I can do it, just not 100%. I guess I'll just work on making sure it sticks then.

[xlolxlolx]

lololol @ j.C spam and j.214D with no follow up, you didn't really do any block strings in this match except for the short one in the beginning. learn how to do cross ups and j.C CH>6C or j.C CH>2D you were just j.Cing to try and get off random hits...... you shouldn't really use j.214D unless it's a combo which you already used your normal freeze on ground, you can follow j.214D up with 6C>214C on ground but not really a good use of 25 heat, and i have no idea why you threw out a 623B after you got cursed....

[StriderHoang]

I swear I have better matches (or not?) but playing against Arakune just pretty much psyched me out. I REALLY didn't wanna get cursed, so I j.C'ed like a madman. And yes, I normally pick up 6C after 214D from the air, but yes, I dropped that like the scrub I am.

Oh, and that random 623B? That was just panic mode setting in. "DERP DERP SMALL INVINCIBILITY."

I used to add annotations to describe what was going through my mind at the time, like "Fission Mailed" when I dropped combos badly, but hey, I'm lazy. Which I guess describes my lack of using sekkajin > 6C combos...

edit: Well, on the idea of my other matches, I guess I'm just playing HORRIBLE players, but whatever. That's for next post.

[Nov Ganon]

ok let me say this

-just learn how to use JC alil better it seems more like u were playing mouse and kune was the cat (ryo is has a decent kuneby the way)

-like xlolxlol x said just learn how to capitalize of random counter hits you seem to be Jc'n with no real plan

-you did a nice CH combo which led him to the corner, but u let him out for free a simple 6c.214c would have kept him there and gave u an oki chance

-remember jin truly shines in the corner so u should constantly be trying to get your opponent in the corner

-try not to freak out when your cursed... just react to kune accordingly

-at the 3:01 point kune did his 2c and u blocked and did a DP that wasn't the best option....you had the HP lead and could have done way more damage than the DP

but overall i enjoyed watching the fight and keep at it

[StriderHoang]

Thank you. You know, whenever I had the chance to use j.D in the air to freeze, I always use 214D if I have meter to push them in the corner whenever I have the chance, but from what I'm picking up is that I should save my meter go for 214C instead?

I almost always do 6C > 214C after a 214D into the corner (which I normally do from j.D from an air combo). What's a better idea? (Though if I have meter I do go for 6C > Ice Arrow).

edit: Oh, and I agree about blocking his 2C. Do you think Jin's 2C would've hit him in time? I forgot if he had meter to RC before or after that.

[Nov Ganon]

edit: Oh, and I agree about blocking his 2C. Do you think Jin's 2C would've hit him in time? I forgot if he had meter to RC before or after that.

a simple 5c would have countered him.... he would have been in a crouching state = free air combo/sekajin combo

[bbq sauce]

edit: Oh, and I agree about blocking his 2C. Do you think Jin's 2C would've hit him in time? I forgot if he had meter to RC before or after that.

Guides>BBCS>select character>Arakune

Anyway I went through the trouble of doing it for you.. Ara's 2C is -36 on block.. More than enough time for 2C FC.

[shadow2bolt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4SBk1gbnYo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGILIXp9TRg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaoGAzIENwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ8_bRxWl00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txFTk61ALds

Lots of vid references with one of the matchups I hate most, Lambda. Also included a Mu one as well. Some I win some I don't.

I did learn a few things some time after the recordings is that when lambda does 214D best place to be is right on top of him where I can either attack or bait or cross up.

[Moy_X7]

DJ_Blactricity wanted some feedback with regards to his current Jin from this match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_5HB265Edg

I say that he plays a solid Jin, he has some nice resets and he knows the mirror match quite well. As for me, I need to stop using 236D in block-strings as this isn't CT, hell, that move isn't that safe in CT either. I also need to pressure better with 2A and use j.A (whiff) > j.B conservatively. I definitely learned some good stuff from this match and I admit that I was outplayed even when I won.

[xlolxlolx]

not bad but he doesnt seem to do much aside from the basics, he also lacks hit comfirming on crouching opponents so he needs to work on that since he's missiing out on like 1k+ damage there, his yomi is good though, his best strength would probably be his 623B and j.236D timing

[Neverdone]

i wish i have the able to put my matches on youtube.