Ragna Critique and Self-Improvement Thread

[Edge Reaper]

Yes, i play BBCS ragna, i havent played BBCT in 5 months =/ so yea. 6a is too unreliable imo=/ i get alot of clashes and it screws up my combos =/ i would ID but the hakumen's here bait it.. so i guess the only decent option is to wait for him to come to me?

If all fails, defense is the way to go yes. Though its considerably more difficult when fighting Haku-men due to the fact that Ragna's biggest plus is beaten by Haku-men; Range. And from what I can tell, Haku-men got a stabbing attack that is considerably faster than any C attack from CT.

[A.T]

That would be his new 5C

Actually, that`s 4C.

[FlyingVe]

6A is still an amazing anti-air made even better by it's speed buff in CS. It really should be your go to anti air. If people are clashing with it then you just need to work on your timing. Heck if it clashes you can just throw out another 6a or ID and there isn't much an airborne opponents can do about it. Also, be careful about being baited (stuff like Bangs jD, Haku's jD, and Tagers j2C).

[Blue Ipod Nano]

Thanks for the help, now i need some help on hazama, wen he shoots the chain, he can choose to land infront or behind you, which is pretty annoying, any tips? ive tried ID and 6a, but if he chooses to land behind you, u get crossed up and i end up ID'ing on the wrong side =/ and it seems after u block his j.2c, he can go straight for his 3c, cus its fast as hell. D: halpz plox

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

Hi everyone, I just signed up for an account and can't wait to be apart of this awesome Blazblue community. I was wondering if I could get any tips or advice on my game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBJbUo3XyEI here is my Ragna =D What a way to get my feet wet huh? =P Looking forward to being able to chat with everyone here. ^_^

[Edge Reaper]

Not bad at all. You got some pretty standard Ragna combos down. But I will point this out. 1. Don't start the match with Gauntlet Hades. Startup and recovery is rather slow, and if the enemy decides to rush you, you will most likely regret it. 2. Don't use A so much in a combo. Otherwise the rest of the combo is weaker for it. 3. While do you have some variety in your combos, try not to use Hell's Fang so much. I saw a lot of Ragna's standard BnB combo in there (5b-5c-hell's fang). Its a wonderful attack I know, but it leaves you horribly vulnerable on block or (god forbid) instant block. On more experienced players, a bad hell's fang could cost you quite a bit. Oh and don't expect Rachel's to be as easy as this one. I know quite a few that could go up to 40 hit combos for more than half your health.

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

I just started playing and I have that habit of spamming A for some reason @_@ I'm also having trouble doing most of Ragna's air combo, I don't know if I'm jump canceling? correctly or not as I can only get up to the 5B, 5C, 5D, 6A, hjc?, 5C, 5D and then after that my combo drops; any suggestions?

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

Oh, and I will absolutely take in your advice, thank you so much ^_^; I have had my run in with those Rachel's and those stupid level 60 Noels >.> they all play the same and yet I can't beat them lol.

[Kain]

I don't know if I'm jump canceling? correctly or not as I can only get up to the 5B, 5C, 5D, 6A, hjc?, 5C, 5D and then after that my combo drops; any suggestions?

You're doing it wrong then.

After the hjc, it should be j.C>j.D>JC>j.C>j.D>623D>236C>214C.

[A.X.I.S.]

Oh, and I will absolutely take in your advice, thank you so much ^_^; I have had my run in with those Rachel's and those stupid level 60 Noels >.> they all play the same and yet I can't beat them lol.

noel? she's free with ragna, at least when i play she is, just be a bit more patient and make her respect that DP yo.

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

You're doing it wrong then.

After the hjc, it should be j.C>j.D>JC>j.C>j.D>623D>236C>214C.

So, I have to jump every time whilst I'm doing the combo? And what does Dp mean? Sorry, I'm totally new haha

[FlyingVe]

So, I have to jump every time whilst I'm doing the combo? And what does Dp mean? Sorry, I'm totally new haha

DP = Dragon Punch = ID = Inferno Divider = 623C (the D version of ID is not a DP as it doesn't have F1 invulnerability)

DP is an attack usually with the 623 motion that is invulnerable at frame 1 making it a reversal.

Also, when you see the combo 5b>5c>5D>(DC)>6a>(JC)>jC>jD>(JC)>jD>623D>followup the JC (both letters capital) means Jump Cancel, you want to jump at these points during the combo. Also about that specific combo the one I listed will work on all non-midgets but against some characters you can do jC>jD>(JC)>jC>jD>D.ID for added damage using a high jump after the 6a. The timing on the 6a also has to be slightly adjusted for certain characters.

Lastly, are you on PSN or XBL. If you on XBL I would be more than happy to help you with some stuff. GT: FlyingVe .

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

Lastly, are you on PSN or XBL. If you on XBL I would be more than happy to help you with some stuff. GT: FlyingVe .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad57JOJZHAs A video of me practicing these air combos; I know it's a bad video, but that is what we're all here for right? lol Self-improvement!

I am on XBL - Name Is Invalid. Thank you for the help, I will add you on.

[Kain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad57JOJZHAs

I see your problem:

You're not jumping immediately after 6A hits. 6A is a JCable move, so you should not be waiting for it to recover before you jump in the air.

Also, it's always better to turn teching on so you know your combo is true, not just going by black beat.

[FlyingVe]

^^ what Kain said. Also, be sure to master the normal version of the air part of the combo first. That is, after the 6a jC>jD>(JC)>jD>ID after you have that down then you can play with High jump Cancels and adding the jC after the double jump. Using the HJ after 6a makes the whole combo easier to land, and the second jC will not work most of the time. Also, another combo that will work in similiar situations, does more damage, and is easier to do is: 5B>6A>5C>5D(1 hit)>GH>5B>D.ID does about 3.3k or 4k if you start with a jC.

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

I can't connect the GH>5B part = (

[FlyingVe]

When you do the followup to GH try to delay it as long as possible. It should look like ragna's foot just barely touches the ground. This is a good link to get down (the 5B relaunch) as it's used in alot of ragna's combos.

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

Update: I can do the air combo now!!! Thanks Kain!! ^_^ but, as for the other combo that FlyingVe is talking about, I can't connect the Gh>5b still.. Should I make a video of that and post up here as well?

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

Just to make sure, should the GH be one hit or two?

[Kain]

Update: I can do the air combo now!!! Thanks Kain!! ^_^ but, as for the other combo that FlyingVe is talking about, I can't connect the Gh>5b still.. Should I make a video of that and post up here as well?

Go ahead if you want.

I also have problems with GH>214D(delay)>5B sometimes, and my accuracy is like 25%. But I can still help.

Edit: Yes, it should be 2 hits, so GH>214D(delay) is what you should be doing.

And don't double post, please. There's an edit button for a reason.

[AkkiZaAokiEdge]

Oh, sorry about that, I will definitely keep that in mind >.<" sorry again. I really appreciate all the help I'm getting guys, it's really improving my variety.

[JETROCKETSKATES]

So I've been trying to make some significant improvements on my Ragna game before CS comes out, and it seems like all of my problems are rooted in two major problems I have. Namely, nailing the 5B > 6A > ect off of a GH, and nailing the 6A in whatever > 5D (DC) > 6A Both seem to be things where, for the life of me, I just can't get the timing down. Any general advice? What is the best way for me to figure out the timing for these? Is there any videos, or some shit, that would help? Any help would be much obliged.

[What]

This combo video shows gauntlet hades combos around 1:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1nP-gruS3I&feature=related

In general when you always have to delay the second hit of GH. I'd say just watch the video and practice a combo like backthrow>214b>delay214d>5b>etc and you'll get it down in no time.

[Kain]

So I've been trying to make some significant improvements on my Ragna game before CS comes out, and it seems like all of my problems are rooted in two major problems I have.

Namely, nailing the 5B > 6A > ect off of a GH, and nailing the 6A in whatever > 5D (DC) > 6A

Both seem to be things where, for the life of me, I just can't get the timing down. Any general advice? What is the best way for me to figure out the timing for these? Is there any videos, or some shit, that would help?

Any help would be much obliged.

You must be underestimating its hitbox or speed then.

5D(DC)>6A is easy to do, since you can literally mash it out with no problems.

GH>5B>6A is hard, but the hard part is really landing a properly delayed GH>5B. 6A and everything after that is easy.

[redsilversnake]

the hard part is really landing a properly delayed GH>5B. 6A and everything after that is easy.

This. You pretty much have to do Keri Age (the GH follow-up) right before Ragna lands on the ground. The timing becomes easier as you practice it, though.