Jo Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Yeah, I know about the crouching hitstun for sure. Hitting people while crouching is usually one of my most favorite things to do with Johnny. Maybe someone can test this blocking thing. render definitely knows what he's talking about 99.99% of the time, though. The 00.01% is when he thought Samuel L. Jackson wasn't in Coming to America. For shame, sir. It's like that with Chun-Li in 3S. I think she recovers quicker from her crouching defense than her standing one.
Kadius Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Hitstun Data. PO's Frame Data. PO's 6HS, Slidehead & Giganter are all level 5 moves which means the best you can get from IB'ing them is 14 frames. Unfortunately, 14 frames is more than enough for Giganter loop to commence/continue, so you've got to reversal backdash that shit, like Render has previously stated. Also: Shouldn't this be in the Potemkin matchup thread?
A3Religion Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Thanks to Xaqshinor: Johnny action for all. Mynus vs A3Religion A3Religion vs Zidane A3Religion vs Zidane 2 A3Religion vs Mynus
A3Religion Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hBQlRNopV0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qps2CR6jsOI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFBB2I3t1xg&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Gb4R76VMc&feature=related
Killerwatt Posted October 9, 2008 Posted October 9, 2008 Guys, you have got to see this. Battle of the Johnnys!!! Kabegiwa no DC vs. Hiro! Who will win? Only one way to find out: watch this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJSBz89-abU&feature=PlayList&p=94149C268ABFEDAB&index=34 Epic. Discussion awaits!
Xaphiel Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 OMFG wat?! This Johnny just beat *ass*! I was cheering him on the whole time, and I really got into these matches. Love the MC skills. This is a *must see*. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGqkgUP5rbk&feature=PlayList&p=F5706BECE729E2C8&index=127 BTW, sorry that I did not find the answer myself.. but who is this JO?
Killerwatt Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 OMFG wat?! This Johnny just beat *ass*! I was cheering him on the whole time, and I really got into these matches. Love the MC skills. This is a *must see*. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGqkgUP5rbk&feature=PlayList&p=F5706BECE729E2C8&index=127 BTW, sorry that I did not find the answer myself.. but who is this JO? Wow. Just wow. From what G-translate has told me I think his name is White...damn. This is the first JO player I've seen to use lvl3 MF for MCing purposes and boy was it effective; he was gatling 5HS for pete's sake!
Genesis Posted October 11, 2008 Posted October 11, 2008 Damn... that JO player just kicks ass. His FRC'ing is amazing too.
Kadius Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 That guy's JO is sick. Player's name is Shiroi (trans: white)
Killerwatt Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 What did you guys think about the Hiro vs DC vid?
A3Religion Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 Fail more. Scrub. Don't make me have to show the Dustloop community how the King of Scrubtonia gets skull raped in the face.
Alzarath Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 Don't make me have to show the Dustloop community how the King of Scrubtonia gets skull raped in the face. Bet it. Bitch.
Genesis Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 BTW how can that guy attack after he does a JH? Usually JH has a delay.
reaVer Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 He's doing MFJH so he can follow up. A3Religion: if you want to mash your way out, at least use something your opponent has to block, like an OD. You should also FD more to get out of pressure. Also, why PMF at random? You could just as easily hold it, confirm where your opponent is and attack him proper or cancel it if your opponent is taking actions against it. Also, in 1 match vs I-no you ate pretty much every overdrive thrown at you... just bait that shit. If I-no dashes at you like some idiot its probably for an OD which you fell for so nicely every time.
A3Religion Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 He's doing MFJH so he can follow up. A3Religion: if you want to mash your way out, at least use something your opponent has to block, like an OD. You should also FD more to get out of pressure. Also, why PMF at random? You could just as easily hold it, confirm where your opponent is and attack him proper or cancel it if your opponent is taking actions against it. Also, in 1 match vs I-no you ate pretty much every overdrive thrown at you... just bait that shit. If I-no dashes at you like some idiot its probably for an OD which you fell for so nicely every time. First to make a long story short, if you ask anyone that was there I was having a bad day. Second, I have worked with FDing on both Zidane, and Mynus, and they both have tactics that run around it. The only thing I would agree on is the fact that I did mash a lot that day, out of frustration which got me killed a lot. Also I PMF lvl1 a lot for a lot of reasons. 1) It scares the person out of jumping, so I could deal with them on the floor. Cause if you don't know I-no's maneuverability in the air is ridiculous, and it'll be hard as hell to catch him to initiate lockdown again. 2) I AA all my friends so often with PMF that they have come accustomed to it so a lot of times they simply FD it coming down so to basically switch things up so that sometimes I can go about Airthrowing so that I could score an easy Mist Setup. I have to laugh in my mind when I think that you actually said this but (this is a serious question for you) Do you think that you can actually punish her supers? If you ask Mynus a lot of times I go for SBing his Super so that I could get some kind of chance to retaliate it. Who do you play with anyway?
A3Religion Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 Bet it. Bitch. Better get your Hello Kitty handbag ready to shell out the cash bitch.
GreasyGyro718 Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 First to make a long story short, if you ask anyone that was there I was having a bad day. from the video's I can tell he was having a bad day. this man is some serious stuff and I know first hand. I'm vouching this man 100% :thumbsup: keep rockin ahmaad.
Genesis Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 He's doing MFJH so he can follow up. I try it but it's the same as a regular JH, I can't follow up (unless I RC it of course).
4r5 Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 all JH combos are shakable. make sure you don't have the dummy set to max shake.
10stars Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 I try it but it's the same as a regular JH, I can't follow up (unless I RC it of course). Are you landing the 5hs after the jackhound at all or no? If you arent your timing is just off, if you're landing that and then unable to hit the next 5hs, make sure you're doing it with L3. I'm also assuming you're referring to the chain of jackhounds/heavys against Robo ky.
reaVer Posted October 12, 2008 Posted October 12, 2008 First to make a long story short, if you ask anyone that was there I was having a bad day. That can happen to anyone really, its kinda your own thing to deal with that; I'm a total autopilot when I'm tired:P Second, I have worked with FDing on both Zidane, and Mynus, and they both have tactics that run around it. There is way around FD yeah, but that usually involves not attacking in the first place. And that means you get some room to work with, which allows you to: mash out more easily;) and allows you to jump out or backdash to create more space. The only thing I would agree on is the fact that I did mash a lot that day, out of frustration which got me killed a lot. Well, a lot... nearly every hole which is kinda asking for serious trouble, especially since you're playing Johnny. Also I PMF lvl1 a lot for a lot of reasons. 1) It scares the person out of jumping, so I could deal with them on the floor. Cause if you don't know I-no's maneuverability in the air is ridiculous, and it'll be hard as hell to catch him to initiate lockdown again. 2) I AA all my friends so often with PMF that they have come accustomed to it so a lot of times they simply FD it coming down so to basically switch things up so that sometimes I can go about Airthrowing so that I could score an easy Mist Setup. My question was, why just do it and risk whiff punishment instead of holding it [l1PMF] and only releasing when you actually confirm he's having a go at you? I have to laugh in my mind when I think that you actually said this but (this is a serious question for you) Do you think that you can actually punish her supers? If you ask Mynus a lot of times I go for SBing his Super so that I could get some kind of chance to retaliate it. Its not about you punishing them, its about not being hit in the first place. If you can (or are practicing to) slashback then that's fine, but usually I see some move out there trying to stuff I-no's overdrives. Getting hit by them like the way you were is kinda throwing away your lifebar for no reason at all. Who do you play with anyway?My sparring partners? Some guys that don't post here at all. One plays Eddie, the other plays Dizzy, I kick both their asses, though they are getting better:P
A3Religion Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 from the video's I can tell he was having a bad day. this man is some serious stuff and I know first hand. I'm vouching this man 100% :thumbsup: keep rockin ahmaad. Thanks Bro, I'm glad you saw that.
A3Religion Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 My question was, why just do it and risk whiff punishment instead of holding it [l1PMF] and only releasing when you actually confirm he's having a go at you? I whiff it because it is extremely hard to punish it. Also it stops a lot of moves on the ground moves, and on the ground offenses.
Killerwatt Posted October 18, 2008 Posted October 18, 2008 OK everyone; I finally have the ability to record my matches; one of many to come as a member of my GG group bought a DVD recorder today. Here's my first match with our resident Robo-Ky player. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZRRE8F4WuQ Please critique if you can. Let me know what I did right (and a lot of what I did wrong as I am sure there are many mistakes) and tell me if I have a solid Johnny or if I am a scrub. Well, hopefully if you're saying the latter you'll be a bit more tactful than that I know I am not the best (as you can tell by my many DL posts asking questions), but it is my hope to get better and become a more formidable Johnny. Anyway, thanks guys. As soon as more of my matches from tonight are uploaded I will post and again ask for constructive criticism. Thanks guys!
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