Dacidbro Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah you're right Carl does need a DP. Bang too.
smooshman Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Yeah you're right Carl does need a DP. Bang too. no, you know he needs a DP? Jin.... I'd trade 623A and 623C for a fucking half a sandwhich. EDIT: actually you can have the DP's if I get a 3.5K command grab and air command grab that I can RC for 5K.
Dacidbro Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 no, you know he needs a DP? Jin.... I'd trade 623A and 623C for a fucking half a sandwhich. ... Jin has a fucking DP, AIGHT? D DP is one of the strongest DPs.
ZONG_one Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 ... Jin has a fucking DP, AIGHT? D DP is one of the strongest DPs. WiT DaT HuGE DAMaGEzsz TOo Do0d.
smooshman Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 ... Jin has a fucking DP, AIGHT? D DP is one of the strongest DPs. lol I'm well aware how good 623D is, it's save my ass several times.... though not from black onslaught. anyways, I meant how only 2 of his DP's aren't terrible... though it's funny to watch the enemies life go away very quickly off of a double hirensou loop.
ZONG_one Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Isn't A better than B anyway? Shout outs to when D DP hits behind you, don't you guys love that?
smooshman Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Isn't A better than B anyway? Shout outs to when D DP hits behind you, don't you guys love that? A DP has no invinciblity.... but it's really fast but B DP is a big part of his corner combo (aka his only good one) you know what's better then them landing behind you? hitting them any way lol. but seriously... it sucks when that happens.
Dacidbro Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 It's not that 2 of his DPs aren't terrible, it's that 3 of his DPs are very situational, and his 3rd is a legitimate, fast as hell DP.
DC Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Noel x Tager = 35/65 imo of course, same reasons I posted above. Also find more stuff like 720 beats her air attacks pretty clean, 360/720 auto-tracks chain revolver, etc Also what's the reasoning behind Rachel x Hazama being 5/5?
Linear04 Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 forget dustloop these guys have the metagame down http://www.aksysgames.com/forums/topic/768
MisoSowee Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 "simply backdashing will only allow you to avoid a grab after Gadgeto Finger only if your not magnetized" I facepalmed.
-Ladon- Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 FUCK YEAH RAGNA AT 7500 HP, WHAT'S A FATAL AGAIN?
Zeromegaman Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 this.... Ragna is closer to where Jin was in CT, he's even or better over most of the cast and is one of the only characters who can effectively face the S tier without getting destroyed, but has enough weaknesses to not just be some nuisance... you can feel a distinct difference in hope level when fighting Ragna compared to Litchi, Bang. Ragna feels beatable if you fight hard enough, Bang feels like a if I try my hardest I may get him 50%, and Litchi is a FUCKITIQUIT!!!! ugh so true. Litchi thus far is the most annoying Character in CS Rankings and online. Needs to go doooooown. ASAP.
Overheat Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 My favourite posts: one more thing: lambda needs a drive meter. no other character can use their drive as much as she does. like give her 8 points(one point equals a sword)for the meter. each point could recharge after two seconds. this way she's not just throwing them out just because she "can get away with it." it'll also keep her from going crazy with drive combos. timing would be more important.Recovery (frames): 5D = 48 2D = 45 6D = 47 4D = 57 j.D = 47 j.2D = 47 Lambda (V-13) - Tons of people were overjoyed when they heard she was taken out, but then deeply saddened when in reality, she was actually replaced by Lambda who is basically V-13. From my experience in fighting games, I have never seen such a broken char in both BB CT and BB CS, projectiles as default attacks? The stereotypical idea is just to block,she has low health and learn her projectiles patterns but thats just not enough. In fact, i just got out of a room where a lambda kept constantly playing ''run away'' or ''keep away'' and that kind of playing style being allowed in a fighting game where most characters lack a projectile, speed, or needs to get close to do combo's just doesnt seem to be fair in my opinion. On to Tsubaki: Told a friend of mine that Tsubaki was broken and he wont believe me lol. My friend sub-mains her and is really good at her and he only needs one opening to do a combo. He says she does low damage so shes not broken but in my opinion that doesnt make it right. To me she actually does ''too much'' damage for something so simple. ^_^;
Sindelian Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I liked their Rachel ideas, but Lobelias are perfectly fine the way they are. Instead, they should have mentioned CH 6B longer hitstun.
A.X.I.S. Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I liked their Rachel ideas, but Lobelias are perfectly fine the way they are. Instead, they should have mentioned CH 6B longer hitstun. lol you don't want those ideas or do you miss rachel that much?
Sindelian Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 lol you don't want those ideas or do you miss rachel that much? I'm saying I liked their ideas, aside from the Lobelias being buffed. They just should have suggested her CT CH 6B
DC Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Lobelias should go back to the way they were in CT. The fuck? I hit Lambda and Spike Chaser still hits me. J.2c should be cancelable on hit, 6b should have SOME type of use. w/e
Antihippy Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 214D does not get canceled when lambda gets hit if they're active already as far as I know, but I'm pretty sure lobelias can cancel them out if they hit the actual spikes.
DC Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Yeah that's what I'm saying. I don't understand why Spike Chaser gets special treatment. :p
Sindelian Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Lobelias should go back to the way they were in CT. I like the new Lobelias. Bouncing lobelias provide a nice defense set up and quick recovery A Lobelia... well... recovered quickly.
Antihippy Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Yeah that's what I'm saying. I don't understand why Spike Chaser gets special treatment. :p Ah. Hey, just because rachel sucks doesn't mean lambda has to suck too. :P
Villainous Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I would just like the damage of the top and some of the more out there stuff toned down. Then bring some of the bottom up and make Arakune not kill you in one curse and I'd be happy lol. I'm content with tier whoring till then. I dunno what the general opinion is but I dunno why Litchi is below Bang on the lists. I think she has a lot more potential and a better game going than Bang.
whitevoid Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 You divide tiers where a divide is present. Ragna is noticeably worse than the S tier (Bang and Litch), but noticeably better than the A tier (Carl and Haku) hence S-. Unless something has changed he fits better in his own tier than in any of the others. The Tier divides and letters aren't just for readability, they do mean something. On another note, when will Arcadia (or whoever) release another tier list? I'm pretty sure this one is outdated, and I'm curious what will change and how much. S- as opposed to A+ or how about S-- or what? Sure, it does mean something, yes, but it doesn't mean as much as you'd like to think it does. And my point isn't that you divide because there are a certain number of people in that tier, you divide because after at a certain point it actually matters. Is it Bang Litchi or Litchi Bang? Does it really make a difference? If you're just shifting people between one or two spots it's not really important unless you are moving them across a tier. But if there are 8 spots in a tier it does make a difference if one is at the top and one is at the bottom. Going from 3rd to 4th in a field of 16 isn't that big of a deal. Going from 3 to 11 is a notably larger deal.
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