Skye Posted September 10, 2010 Author Posted September 10, 2010 It's a patch. Like all the patches, it will be free. Valkenhayn and Platinum on the other hand, will not be.
farranpoison Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Hey, since I play CS Jin now, I actually liked how B musou worked in CS. But I guess if Ice car spam doesn't work now anyway (since you can lol crouch under C musou) then I guess return of B musou isn't that surprising.
kenja0 Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 "We don't really care about the balance- we just want to game to be fun." I guess nerfing Litchi, Bang, Ragna and buffing Tsubaki and Rachel makes the game more fun. Not that I'm saying it's awesome and they should get mega nerfed, but hopefully they won't make Litchi/Bang/Ragna unplayable like Rachel once was. I'd rather a couple of mechanic changes and apply mostly damage/proration changes for them than for them to lose their combo ability. They're fun to play now. They just need to deal Chipp damage.
farranpoison Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Inb4 CT Jins saying they want ice waggle back.
HiagoX Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 They just need to deal Chipp damage. ...What?
kenja0 Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Okay that's a serious exaggeration... it doesn't need to be THAT low. lol.
Sponson Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Inb4 CT Jins saying they want ice waggle back. Don't you mean mario party: jin?
Jourdal Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Inb4 CT Jins saying they want ice waggle back. Hell fucking no
Skye Posted September 10, 2010 Author Posted September 10, 2010 the real question here is, are we sure that the balance patch would be free? cuz being honest, i dont remember that aksys or arcsys have said that the balance patch suposedly for december will be a free patch I believe Mori said so in an interview. No other patch in modern times have ever came with a price.
Hecatom Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 What im really wondering is, if this rebalance will be ... a new game all together since theyre adding story mode and arcade for the DLC or if theyre just going to make it a very large free DLC thing which will change BBCS TO BBCSII the real question here is, are we sure that the balance patch would be free? cuz being honest, i dont remember that aksys or arcsys have said that the balance patch suposedly for december will be a free patch
Kristoph Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Hey, since I play CS Jin now, I actually liked how B musou worked in CS. But I guess if Ice car spam doesn't work now anyway (since you can lol crouch under C musou) then I guess return of B musou isn't that surprising. What makes you think that the decision to bring back 214b's knockdown was based on scrub-level icecar spam tactics? Especially when it didn't even work in CT to begin with?
Hecatom Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 I believe Mori said so in an interview. No other patch in modern times have ever came with a price. i know, suposedly there are some rules about charging on patches of that nature, and i want to belive that asw wouldnt screw their fan base making them hate them because they charge for the charcters and later for the balance patch but we cant be sure until there is a tangible proof that the patch would be free
dehumanizer Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 I feel like it would be a serious kick to the balls if it wasn't. If the balance patch comes with a price, they might as well make a new game, cuz the online would be so separated.
farranpoison Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 What makes you think that the decision to bring back 214b's knockdown was based on scrub-level icecar spam tactics? Especially when it didn't even work in CT to begin with? Wat. Did you understand what I said? The reason they nerfed Icecar in CS is because in CT Jins spammed it without much punishment. Now in CS C musou can be crouched under, and B musou doesn't kd. So, my point was since icecar spam isn't really viable anymore, they probably put old B musou back in so that CS Jin combos that can't end with C musou still end in kd and a more favorable position for Jin.
Pokachu Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Overall damage increased5B>2B gattling added6A activation speed increased6B on counter slides6B jump cancel possible on block2C hit stop increased5C>C now slides. Mid screen C lobelia>3D> Sword iris/BBL combos. In corner 5C>C>3C can be done for 2 loops.j2C can be canceled into attacks on landingLobeilas come out even when hitGeorge has been changed (there's a frog gauge now)Wind has longer recovery.Tempest dahlia? what the heck is that? [i think he means it's been removed] Well I guess I'm dropping Rachel if she gets buffed up like this after patch and move back to Bang.
Jourdal Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Wat. Did you understand what I said? The reason they nerfed Icecar in CS is because in CT Jins spammed it without much punishment. Now in CS C musou can be crouched under, and B musou doesn't kd. So, my point was since icecar spam isn't really viable anymore, they probably put old B musou back in so that CS Jin combos that can't end with C musou still end in kd and a more favorable position for Jin. And you know this how? Ice car knockdown is all about oki.
Kristoph Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Wat. Did you understand what I said? The reason they nerfed Icecar in CS is because in CT Jins spammed it without much punishment. Now in CS C musou can be crouched under, and B musou doesn't kd. So, my point was since icecar spam isn't really viable anymore, they probably put old B musou back in so that CS Jin combos that can't end with C musou still end in kd and a more favorable position for Jin. Ice car spam was never viable past beginner level though. Why would they balance the game based on a purely beginner-level tactic?
koun Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Hey, since I play CS Jin now, I actually liked how B musou worked in CS. But I guess if Ice car spam doesn't work now anyway (since you can lol crouch under C musou) then I guess return of B musou isn't that surprising. This
DesmondWafers Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Why would they balance the game based on a purely beginner-level tactic? That seems to be the reason they won't buff tager. Have you seen the aksys forums? It's full of people complaining about how tager is overpowered. It's hilarious and depressing at the same time...
J-KT21 Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Inb4 CT Jins saying they want ice waggle back. We don't want that, only scrubby Jins want it. Ice waggle was wack and I felt bad about landing blackbeat combos. Plus ice resets are much more effective now. What I'd want to see is his lolhitboxes being fixed. Especially 5C, 2D, j.2C and 2A.
Kristoph Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 That seems to be the reason they won't buff tager. Have you seen the aksys forums? It's full of people complaining about how tager is overpowered. It's hilarious and depressing at the same time... aksys is not ASW, who are the ones balancing the game. And I mean, either way it's a forum. Also: they already buffed Tager from CT to CS. They will probably buff him again. This stuff about him "not improving" is premature as hell, and even if it were true, it would be justifiable by the fact that it's just generally difficult to make a good grappler in a fighting game without making the game less fun to play. What I'd want to see is his lolhitboxes being fixed. Especially 5C, 2D, j.2C and 2A.I'm not a fan of the "wow look at Jin's silly hitboxes" complaints. They seem to be based on aesthetics rather than the actual balance of the moves, which is what has always been important in the first place. Buffing all of Jin's moves just so they were more accurate to the animations would be totally crazy and unnecessary.
zeech Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 That seems to be the reason they won't buff tager. Have you seen the aksys forums? It's full of people complaining about how tager is overpowered. It's hilarious and depressing at the same time... I guess they should give Tager some buffs that only high skill players can perform. Like Tager Taunt Loop :P
Tofu Warrior Posted September 10, 2010 Posted September 10, 2010 Tager will not receive any buffs that will drastically improve his game, or his ability to deal with bad match ups. Honestly, if he's too good, the game will suck and they know it. That being said, he needs completely different lows. When the opponent is magnetized, they should slowly be pulled towards him too lol.
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