CakeWasBannedd Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Give me a good reason not to ban you. omg yes
FormerlyUnknown Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 ima pop my head back in here =p a stage is a stage is a stage is a stage. wasn't there the same discussion for the Hypedog stage? I say we go Supreme Court on this and carry over that decision on to this one...
natearistata Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 Except the hype dog stage has no effect at all on gameplay, some people just get annoyed by it. Training stage does.
FormerlyUnknown Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 i see it as the same problem =p only instead of visual cues hypedog can interupt audio cues used in combos and such. of course it's a smaller problem for most because of course you're LOOKING at the screen at all times and the noise from a tourney can drown out all noise from the game, but if you're going to start pecking at the small visual things in the stage (or lack of them) then maybe we should only allow 1 stage for tourneys and everyones equal in everything. I for example get distracted by the costant jumping of the boy in Bascule, or the danceing people and giant dragon head in rest time, so I avoid those stages...
CakeWasBannedd Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 i see it as the same problem =p only instead of visual cues hypedog can interupt audio cues used in combos and such. of course it's a smaller problem for most because of course you're LOOKING at the screen at all times and the noise from a tourney can drown out all noise from the game, but if you're going to start pecking at the small visual things in the stage (or lack of them) then maybe we should only allow 1 stage for tourneys and everyones equal in everything. I for example get distracted by the costant jumping of the boy in Bascule, or the danceing people and giant dragon head in rest time, so I avoid those stages... please stop posting
FormerlyUnknown Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 i prefer it if people actually tell me why i'm wrong rather than shoo me away =p stay free most of dustloop. anyway point is ALL of the stages in blazblue are vibrant and wonderfull, so I can see how a blank slate like Training can throw people for a loop. But in reality it focuses your attention on your opponent, that's really all you have to pay attention too. So really you should be playing better in Training than in any other stage in the game, but that's not the case. Most people just tone out the background of the stages and fight, but what about the other people who can't? or the people who do leagues better in Training, are they just going to suck it up because they're the minority? If you ban 1 stage for visual distractions (I.E being "ugly") you must ban all stages with visual distractions (every stage aside from maybe altar)
ZONG_one Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 If you ban 1 stage for visual distractions (I.E being "ugly") you must ban all stages with visual distractions (every stage aside from maybe altar) It has nothing to do with being ugly, or how it looks, period.
FormerlyUnknown Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 It has nothing to do with being ugly, or how it looks, period. technically that's exactly what it's about =p you can't see the corners because they're hiding in all the black and blue. I understand the arguement people are makeing but i'm seeing it differently. If you have trouble in Training stage, fight more in training stage and get better. One shouldn't ban an entire part of a game because the majority doesn't like it. and if you do ban it, then you have to ask what about any other the other stages that distract or put advantages to a character or player? a characters home stage tends to have a psychological effect on the opponent, which is of course why random is mostly used, however there always the chance of it happening (I myself have chosen random and ended up with Kunes CT stage and his music, felt good and gave me confidence). in the option of soft banning it sounds good, full banning I think is out of the question. but whatever pleases the majority.
CakeWasBannedd Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 technically that's exactly what it's about =p you can't see the corners because they're hiding in all the black and blue. I understand the arguement people are makeing but i'm seeing it differently. If you have trouble in Training stage, fight more in training stage and get better. One shouldn't ban an entire part of a game because the majority doesn't like it. and if you do ban it, then you have to ask what about any other the other stages that distract or put advantages to a character? oh dear lord
ZONG_one Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 technically that's exactly what it's about =p you can't see the corners because they're hiding in all the black and blue. I understand the arguement people are makeing but i'm seeing it differently. If you have trouble in Training stage, fight more in training stage and get better. One shouldn't ban an entire part of a game because the majority doesn't like it. and if you do ban it, then you have to ask what about any other the other stages that distract or put advantages to a character? It affects gameplay. My beef isn't even because of corners. It's the vertical shift in the screen, and how the floor isn't connected to the back wall, so you can't see shit to time combos, height-wise.
FormerlyUnknown Posted October 20, 2010 Posted October 20, 2010 zong if you have a problem with training mode either A: practice practice practice or B: suck it up if anyone else talks up with problems about it then yes a soft ban is best in the eyes of the public, but right now It's just Zong counter-pointing the arguement, with others giveing input here and there. it doesn't seem like such a big deal so I say just suck it up =p
ZONG_one Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 zong if you have a problem with training mode either A: go back to character select and pick a different stage. or B: pick a different stage. That's already what I do.
FormerlyUnknown Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 alright. the 1 person with a problem has found a solution. arguement over =p -bang- court adjourned
JammyKuradoberi Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 I hate training tooo,my cousin picks training and says its epic,ehh noo online no one picks it lol,i like the dog stage
Rhiya Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Softban makes perfect sense, IMO. The reasons discussed in the topic are more than good enough.
Black Onslaught Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Play a guy Ask them not to pick Training Mode Stage ??? Profit ( punch them if they don't )
NasaXnieru Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 First a thread about pre-emptively banning additional characters, and now this. How is anyone supposed to take this community seriously lol stay free most of dustloop.
TD Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 No one is really saying anything good about this stage... so regsrdless of whether the arguments are minor, well, a soft ban would normally solve an issue. l mean it's a stage gone, but l doubt iy will be missed.
unsanctifier Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 I never really had a problem with Training Stage. I always was able to "feel" my way around if that makes sense. A soft ban would make sense if everyone is THAT bothered by it. Ok. Done. Noone is defending training stage. Why is this an argument? What is being said to make it two sides? The Internet. Where people flame others' opinions without reading them.
Ronin Jinobi Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 meh soft ban sounds good. If it bothers someone enough to not want to play on it then that's fine. oh and stay free. all of you :3
SolarMisae Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Play a guy Ask them not to pick Training Mode Stage ??? Profit ( punch them if they don't ) But what if it's online? Anyways...I personally don't like that stage, hurts my eyes a bit. I can play on it if I have to though. Soft ban is more than enough. It's just a stage, just don't play on it. Even without a soft ban, I don't think any offline tournament people will say "NO, the gods of random select have spoken, YOU MUST PLAY ON THAT STAGE!" or stupid shit like that. Just ask not to play on it, and don't use random select online. I don't see how it's that big of a deal really.
ATGMantenbo Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Hard to tell where corners are compared to other stages As Litchi player, this stage is a nightmare to me because of the reason above. Litchi has to worry about 5 zones in the screen in order to combo consistently and I really can not tell what zone I am in most of the time unless I start a combo in the corner. It would be nice if they indicate where you are on the stage just like Mu's stage where there is this giant pillar midscreen and pretty much all the other stages.
Hawkingbird Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 I don't care. Playing matches on the training stage has never been a problem for me. I didn't even think it was a problem until I saw this thread. If people want it banned it won't bother me. Nothing of value has been lost.
Re4L14124c Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Personally, I think that if you can play on the clusterfuck stages BB and GG has, you should have no problem playing on one that doesn't have a damn thing. Part of playing fighting games is to DEAL WITH IT; some players don't play sticks (ha), sometimes you play on an unfamiliar screen, sometimes there's different pings and reaction times, and sometimes you have to take a shit. Part of playing fighting games and competing in it, in my opinion, is to always perform as best as you can under different circumstances, as long as they are not outright atrocious. Sports athletes always have to compete in different places in different conditions, I don't see why a competitive game can't do the same. And as mentioned, you shouldn't have any problems with the training stage if you can stand all those other stages. So I say no ban; but I don't mind either way.
FlyingVe Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Sports players can always see the lines and goals on their courts. I would soft ban the training mode stage on the grounds that it F's up some characters more than others. I know with Mu, I often can't tell where the damned corners are until after they've bounced off the wall, and by then it's too late to choose the correct oki setup. You talk like soft banning stages is unheard of in FG's? Even in SF4 people don't like to play on the volcano level because it makes alot of stuff nigh impossible to see.
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