[CS2] Mu-12 CS2 Changes Discussion

[Silfer]

-edit- Yeap, seems like its just the same, japan just found out about 2b->5c->2c->63214c XD

Edited November 17, 2010 by Silfer

[FlyingVe]

Stun Edge posted as series of descriptions of the direction Mori wants the characters to go in CS2, here's Mu's:

Mu:

-She will be focused on guard primer breaking, it will be easier for her to go Oki and set-play this time

That's pretty much exactly what Mu players wanted anyways. Hype!

[TD]

Link to where he posted? l wanted to read everyone's, but l can't fibd the page in the loketest thread.

[Aginor]

According to eirei in the BBCS loctest thread, Mu j.2c is still untechable. I guess that means it's the same as CS1 where you can't emergency tech it?

[FlyingVe]

@Aginor: Yep sounds like the move is unchanged. The lack of Mu players in Japan could be causing alot of mis information (I have my doubts about a few of the reported 'changes')

@Tempest: It's post #775. Below is a quote so you can click to see stunedge's full post.

*snip*

Edited November 17, 2010 by FlyingVe

[Shockna]

So does that mean they might be wrong about 6A and (perhaps) 3C too?

[C0R]

With j.2c loops still in place, along with the existing buffs...

She's sounding mighty powerful compared to her old self, especially with everyone else getting shot in the kneecaps.

[FlyingVe]

So does that mean they might be wrong about 6A and (perhaps) 3C too?

6A maybe, 3C I doubt it.

For example, many players unfamiliar with Mu assume her A/B normals are the same as Lambda's when in fact they are slightly different. Mu's 2B currently has a longer reach than Lambda's. A player unfamiliar with the character might think that 2B got a buff (because of their point of view). In the end we'll have to see for ourselves come release day.

@Corinth: Remember Mu is currently a lower-mid tier character. She's getting some buffs to her neutral game and some nerfs to her damage. Nothing will fundamentally change how she is played. I think she'll remain Mid tier as she has all the same weaknesses as before.

Edited November 17, 2010 by FlyingVe

[TD]

Of course 2b was a buff... any move having longer reach is good unless it did nothing but extend the hitbox.

Dosen't say anything about Lambda breaking primers anymore... maybe Mu is now the best primer eater.

Also l hear the patch is less than a month away, but it might be DLC...

[FlyingVe]

Rumor is we get CS2 and Platinum as DLC the same day as the Arcade release... This is just a rumor though, nothing concrete.

[Shockna]

Technically speaking, hasn't the Console head at ArcSys not even replied to whether or not we get it on consoles? I know Mori said we would, but as far as I know, the man actually responsible for having that happen is silent.

[Silfer]

I dont know why I keep thinking that this will release dec 9th...must have read it somewhere

[Zeromus_X]

Dec 9 is when CS2 gets released for arcades. So hopefully the 2.0 patch gets released around that time.

So j2C is unchanged. Mu's gonna be pretty beast. =)

[C0R]

Rumor is we get CS2 and Platinum as DLC the same day as the Arcade release... This is just a rumor though, nothing concrete.

I'm sure Arcsys would love for this to happen, and I would too. Lining up the content patch with the arcade release would be a smart descision in my book. But, as you said, nothing confirmed. (Though Platinum, if she follows the current DLC trend, SHOULD be availible early December.)

@Corinth: Remember Mu is currently a lower-mid tier character. She's getting some buffs to her neutral game and some nerfs to her damage. Nothing will fundamentally change how she is played. I think she'll remain Mid tier as she has all the same weaknesses as before.

I dunno, even with the damage nerfs her spacing game seems tighter through 236a and faster steins/C-series. That level of control increase is a powerful asset to my playstyle at least. Though we'll have to wait and see if something great became something dazzling.

Though we did loose the 3c knockdown, I think the 2c>6c gatling replaces it nicely. So to me she didn't really lose any tools, and only seemed to gain through the patching process.

[TD]

c moves are faster?

[C0R]

Looking back now I can't find it in the changelogs of the Loketests, but referencing a video of the loketests, there was a noticeable increase of speed to 5c, with discussion saying it was her entire C-series. I'll go look for it.

Edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hzoy9pxN7A#t=4m05s

It looks like all her C series attacks are faster. It's unconfirmed and could be an illusion.

Like Ve said, it's unconfirmed, but defenitely apparent.

(Sorry for torrent-quoting you Ve, just happens. )

Edited November 17, 2010 by C0R

[FlyingVe]

Also, when you look at the new combos: 2B>2C and 2C>6C something about those normals had to have changed. Speed is the most likely and lines up with that LokeTest one video. They probably haven't sped up alot though.

@Corinth: torrent quotes happen, that's why I keep updating the OP so all the stuff is centralized somewhere.

[HiagoX]

Rumor is we get CS2 and Platinum as DLC the same day as the Arcade release... This is just a rumor though, nothing concrete.

Where did you read about this?

[FlyingVe]

Where did you read about this?

No where particular, I've just heard it through hearsay. Hence rumor, it could be(and likely is) total bullshit. Still I can't imagine that we will be waiting too long after the 9th if they're doing it via DLC. If they're doing a disc, it will probably be longer.

[HiagoX]

I see. Just wish they do that, after all. However, I'm under the impression we'll have to wait a while until we get CS2 and possibly, Platinum.

[FlyingVe]

I hear ya. Hell, I only have an Xbox, and with the current track record, I'll get CSII when I'm forty... At least I'll get to enjoy my untechable 3C for longer

Edited November 18, 2010 by FlyingVe

[Shockna]

$5 says Valk and Plat come to XBL the same day. 11/30/2011. >_>

[FlyingVe]

This is not Mu specific but too big not to mention.

Instant Block: down to 2-3 frames less of recovery instead of 5.

My thoughts, "Fuck Yes! It's about time!"

While this will make it harder to IB>DP, I think on the whole it improves Mu's game quite a bit, jC isn't a death trap on IB, IB>jump doesn't get out of oki as easy, C normals not as easy to IB>DP, 6B only -6 on IB, the list goes on.

Edited November 18, 2010 by FlyingVe

[Silfer]

It seems like a huge improvement gameplay wise...but, sadly I only play online, so it doesnt really affect me XD

[Shockna]

So, unless it was corrected, we might be seeing 110% bonus proration on Gold Bursts as a system change. Would that fit into any of Mu's combos, or perhaps make some of her already (arguably) ridiculous corner combos worse?