Urichinan Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I'm pretty sure 2A ISN'T actually jump cancellable, but it's so fucking fast to come out and recover that it might as well be. True, there is a gap there since it's not, but your opponent should be trained to continue blocking after 2A by the time you use that anyway :P Plat is a mixup champ, here goes: 2A: low 5A: mid 6A: mid 2B: low 5B: mid 6B: high 2C: mid 5C: mid 6C: mid (but leads to highs, like ragna 6D) 3C: low j.A: high (FUCK YEAH) j.B: high j.C: high j.2C: high 236A: mid (sad day) 236B: mid 22C doesn't come out unless they're already in hit-stun 236C isn't an attack 214BUBBLES: mid 41236D: throw 632146C: mid items: missiles and bombs are always mid 5D is mid for hammer, pan, bat and kitty jD is high for pan, kitty, and first hit of hammer (I'm pretty sure the second hit is mid) I'm not sure about jD with the bat, but I don't think it can come out low enough to hit them when they're crouching, to be honest. It floats her up a bit on use in the air and she swings kinda upwards. I think these are all the same as the upgraded version. The only one I'm unsure about is the second hit of jD megaton hammer. It MIGHT be low, but I really don't play around too much with the upgraded items, only against the computer which is too stupid to block anyway... Hope I'm not forgetting anything... As for jump cancellable moves... I think it's only 5A, 6A, and 5C. 6C IS a jump, so think what you will of that move (it also cancels pretty damn quickly into jC... too quickly, you gotta learn the timing on it). 6C is another fun move. Throw out once in a blue moon and watch their health disappear on that fatal counter. I often forget it even exists, but not nearly as often as my opponents do, apparently. Use it after a 5C. They'll expect either 3C or a jump cancel. When they don't see either of those happen immediately, they'll try to react by poking, but often just in time to get FC'd by your move. Again, while this isn't DANGEROUS (you can continue attacking [and from the air!] on block) it loses a lot of its effect if you use it too much. Also, that situation about the hammer and missiles: In theory that's a pretty good idea, however 9 times out of 10, the opponent jumps the second they see 214D missiles, meaning the SLIDE-HAMMER wouldn't do anything. At least you get a pretty safe Miracle Jeanne, though :D I'll probably look over the guide sometime tonight, Urichinan. If I feel anything needs correcting or whatever, I'll send you a PM or post here just so that thread stays nice and tidy (I don't like the guide threads getting cluttered and ugly with non-guide things). Furthermore, your avatar is so painfully ironic in the Plat section. Just sayin'. I do not want to lose this! Alright man, thanks for that. I'll update the guide soon and make a few corrections to the properties of her moves.
Kantan Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 @Corinthatic: what? BTW, guys, someone's visiting me for the next week and then a few days later I'll be traveling around the country for 2 weeks. In other words, no Plat or DL access for a while. My goal after I get back (or if I get to go before I leave) is to try to get some specific damage and heat gain numbers off of some of the more common combos. 5B>5C>236B doesn't have a heat gain yet in the combo thread and that is UNACCEPTABLE. I'll try to get things like that and easier combos (like mami circular>pickup>bubble> air finisher) down and off of different starters (from 5A, 5B, 2B, 5C...).
C0R Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I took all the relevant info and pasted it into the guide thread.
Urichinan Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Oh yes, I'm updating the combo thread soon with all kinds of new combos. So when you get back would you mind testing as many as you can for some numbers?
Kantan Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 @Corinthatic: ah, duh. sorry XD @Urichinan: If they are within the realm of my shitty input's ability, I will gladly test them out. Keep in mind that, until further practice, 22C juggle things aren't something I can pull off consistently... Hell, even 3C>22C is hard...
LuciaWaltez Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 This is random and not really going with the current convo , but does anyone know if Platinum is coming to console before or after the PSP/3DS release of BBCSII ?
Urichinan Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 It hasn't been officially announced yet. All that has been said is she'll be coming out in late March(It is March right?) for Japan.
Marisa Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Just guessing, I'd say that Platinum (and BBCSII) won't launch until a week to a month after the PSP/3DS versions. As soon as sales of the portable versions die down the patch will come out. Less people will buy the portable ones if they already have access on their console of choice. You know people will be buying it just for early access.
Cirno Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 All ArcSys said is she would be releasing in Spring, and the window for that is pretty large. Not to mention they never specified BBCSII, but presuming she can't be released without it, it'll be at the same time. BBCSII for PSP and 3DS will be released on March 31st for Japan, and like Marisa said, it's possible they will delay the console versions a bit longer to allow the handheld versions to sell a bit better. I presumed earlier that we might get a bit more information some time soon, during the EU or Texas events in March, so take that as you will.
kid viper Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 (edited) since i'm able to play it now i'll be able to test things out! i'll try and help out with stuff as much as i can fun thing to note (i don't know if it's been mentioned or not sorry guys): platinum's 5a is actually her throwing out rock, paper, or scissors on you Edited March 1, 2011 by kid viper
Urichinan Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 since i'm able to play it now i'll be able to test things out! i'll try and help out with stuff as much as i can fun thing to note (i don't know if it's been mentioned or not sorry guys): platinum's 5a is actually her throwing out rock, paper, or scissors on you Three different animations? Care to take some pics so we can see? SHE JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER!
TD Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 since i'm able to play it now i'll be able to test things out! i'll try and help out with stuff as much as i can fun thing to note (i don't know if it's been mentioned or not sorry guys): platinum's 5a is actually her throwing out rock, paper, or scissors on you can this possibly mean 3 different hitboxes? i mean, it sounds silly to ask, but if scissors can extend the hitbox of 5a... that'd be pretty gdlk.
Cirno Posted March 1, 2011 Posted March 1, 2011 fun thing to note (i don't know if it's been mentioned or not sorry guys): platinum's 5a is actually her throwing out rock, paper, or scissors on you Please excuse my disbelief, but are you sure? The quality hasn't been too great in any of the videos with her in it, so I can't tell too well, but it didn't seem like that. Not to mention it hasn't been said in any other information etc. If it's true, then I guess that's a random modifier aside from her drive. ┐(￣ー￣)┌
kid viper Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 (edited) everytime she 5a's her hand forms one of three things: rock, paper, or scissors. the hitbox doesn't change at all, it's just an animation thing. i'm absolutely sure because i everytime i do something i actually look at her animations to see what they look like. it's really interesting to see all her animations. Edited March 2, 2011 by kid viper
Yggjrasil Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 lol thats pretty sick, a janken-pan character that actually plays janken-pan whilst fighting.
kid viper Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94G5odtCIeY#t=4m36s pay close attention and you'll see her do paper and scissors
Cirno Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94G5odtCIeY#t=4m36s pay close attention and you'll see her do paper and scissors Oh, very nice. Indeed then, I couldn't notice it on lesser quality videos.
LuciaWaltez Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 Okaay completely off the current topic again , but this is my opinion on the whole Platinum release . Info about the DLC patch for BBCS hasn't had any info come out but only Platinums release . Like you said Cirno "PSP/3DS ver are gonna be sold first , then later on her DLC would be put up on PSN" but the difference is everyone has seen the PSP and 3DS trailers to BBCSII and we know that Platinum , Valkenhyne , and Makoto are getting a spot on Arcade mode . And also may i add that the story mode is going to be updated and the three new characters are taking a spot on there . So to make my point completely clear . If no info on a patch release for BBCS has been announced or anything then why would we have to wait for the PSP and 3DS release first before we get the DLC . It would make sense if we knew we'd get a patch to update the story and have access to playing Platinum , Valkenhyne and Makoto on Arcade , but unfortunetly we don't . So by saying this no one really does know if it will release for console first or PSP/3DS first . So i guess were gonna have to wait until more info has been release by the AKSYS company .
Urichinan Posted March 2, 2011 Posted March 2, 2011 While that is also a valid theory, from a business standpoint releasing the PSP/3DS versions before the PS3/360 would mean that people might buy the portable copies just for early access thus bringing in a higher income. Nothing can be said for sure since this is all theory, but for ASW they would probably make more money that way. And as a business is more likely.
LuciaWaltez Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 While that is also a valid theory, from a business standpoint releasing the PSP/3DS versions before the PS3/360 would mean that people might buy the portable copies just for early access thus bringing in a higher income. Nothing can be said for sure since this is all theory, but for ASW they would probably make more money that way. And as a business is more likely. That is also valid too , but its the same way for many others aswell . Most people own BBCS for the console and they'd probably would make more profit off the DLC then the new game itself . Reason being this because yes early access to the game of course , but who would really spend as much money just to have a couple of extra features when they can just have the patch come earlier on and buy it off the PSN or Xbox 360 network for 20.00$ . Alot of people think BBCSII will sell more but personally i think it will sell less anywhere . Unless they'd like to play it on the way . But thats just my opinion on the whole situation itself .
dummyacct7 Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 But they only have something to gain from releasing on portable systems first. If they decide to price the CS2 update, say $20 like you said, people who are willing to buy it at that price are going to do so, regardless if the portable release is out or not. If they were on the other hand to release the console patch first, that would probably deter sales for the portable versions, as no matter how you look at it, the portable version will be inferior to a console equivalent, so from a business standpoint, it only makes sense to release the console version later. Plus if you look at the main site they've been hyping up the portable releases with no mention of the console update. That should make it pretty clear what their focus is on right now.
Yggjrasil Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 We'll just keep waiting till that day where our patience will pay off, but until further notice lets just enjoy the fact that it's spring and we lasted this long waiting for her.
Starlight777 Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Watch them announce her console release date on the eve or day of the portable release lol.
TD Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 eh. psp date confirmed. l dont really care too much which one comes out first at this point. not like lm looking forward to netplay.
Cirno Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 but who would really spend as much money just to have a couple of extra features when they can just have the patch come earlier on and buy it off the PSN or Xbox 360 network for 20.00$ Considering Mori/Ishiwatari already said the BBCS2 system will be either very cheap or free, most people aren't going to worry about the cost of buying the PSP/3DS versions first, since they'll get it cheap/free later (Platinum not included). People like getting stuff earlier than others, and people like portable things. People also like Blazblue. Add all these together and you might just find yourself blowing 40 dollars on a PSP version of the game you were already going to get for cheaper.
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