[CPEX] Hakumen Gameplay Discussion

[Kriegdrache]

^ I did that for a couple weeks to improve my game once. Worked awesomely.

Lol I can only imagine your opponents are shitting themselves because you're not pressing D, so they're scared you may throw it out.

Mindgames

[toanenadiz]

Just unmap the D button.

Everyone should do that a few times with their character. It's fun and you learn a lot (like some characters are ass without D)

[mAc Chaos]

If I did that I wouldn't have any buttons to press.

[Kriegdrache]

If I did that I wouldn't have any buttons to press.

Dont press buttons, run the clock.

WILL YOU CROSS THE LINE!?

[Dork]

Everyone should do that a few times with their character. It's fun and you learn a lot (like some characters are ass without D)

I am definitely going to try that tonight with my Hakumen.... along with re-learning all his moves, because I haven’t touched the game in months

[Fujiwara]

Unmapped D, played a little offline with my brother.

I am liking this man's damage. Ripping chunks off of Lambda in the corner is so damn fun.

[BladeOfJustice7]

All this unmapping D and what not lol, I just simply tell myself "you're mashing D too much, just block and punish". People need to realize that he's like every other character, he can still punish moves with his own specials/normals. Counters just allow him to punish things on reaction (like Ragna's death spike) that most characters cannot normally punish unless they have a really good read.

CSEX/CP has so many tools to beat pressure, nvm they nerfed his counters again, he still has a lot of tools to punish unsafe moves and repetitious things from your opponent.

[dioxideUniversa]

like 17 star combos

[LegendaryRath]

I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen this already but oh well. Theres a 6k combo off a drive towards the end.

Hakumen Combos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwJa1xo2G4

[dioxideUniversa]

wow wowwww the combo at the end of that video. i realize it's 6c fatal but still

[xlolxlolx]

damn 6 stars for like 6.8k off of fc enma

looks like you proly can do stuff like hotaru>air dash>j.b>5c>2c

[LegendaryRath]

wow wowwww the combo at the end of that video. i realize it's 6c fatal but still

I would imagine getting better damage, actually. If the FC really affects the proration at all, it should make it so you can do some loops at least.

[xlolxlolx]

fc doesnt affect proration only untech time

[Isuna]

The training I did to learn blocking was to go into versus against Hell AI and try to lose on time without attacking.

I didn't play standard controls on my pad. Two of the guys I played with really spammed throws, so I put the throw reject on A instead of Drive. Drive I put on the right bumper, kinda of a SS-layout if you want.

Hakumen damage seems only to become more for each day that goes.

5D do look really fast, if it the start-up was 5F before, what is it now? o.o

Zanshin Emma looks ridiculously rewardful, but I guess the timing is tight?

Or is that what it is all about? Either you get damage from Emma or you get to switch places with 5D or 2D.

[Kanashimi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwJa1xo2G4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Well dammit I expect more OD combos VERY VERY soon..

[xlolxlolx]

wonder if it forces fc even if theyre not in ch state

[Spark]

The training I did to learn blocking was to go into versus against Hell AI and try to lose on time without attacking.

I didn't play standard controls on my pad. Two of the guys I played with really spammed throws, so I put the throw reject on A instead of Drive. Drive I put on the right bumper, kinda of a SS-layout if you want.

Hakumen damage seems only to become more for each day that goes.

5D do look really fast, if it the start-up was 5F before, what is it now? o.o

Zanshin Emma looks ridiculously rewardful, but I guess the timing is tight?

Or is that what it is all about? Either you get damage from Emma or you get to switch places with 5D or 2D.

It seems like the only hard part would be knowing if the enma will hit or not since it's not invincible, so you could get mashed out of it if you don't confirm.

[LegendaryRath]

fc doesnt affect proration only untech time

My bad, that's what I meant tho.

[dioxideUniversa]

It seems like the only hard part would be knowing if the enma will hit or not since it's not invincible, so you could get mashed out of it if you don't confirm.

do we know for certain if the enma off parries isn't invincible? i don't remember hearing about it. (or seeing it in matches for that matter)

Edited December 7, 2012 by dioxideUniversa

[itsme]

do we know for certain if the enma off parries isn't invincible? i don't remember hearing about it. (or seeing it in matches for that matter)

It was very much confirmed if you take the jbbs's word for it. If you try to drive Enma a multi hit move, you apparently get hit by the second or following move.

[TheBossGiga]

Agito puts you in a mean mix up if you quick tech on hit(possibly on block too) along with being an overall great move.

6b does good dmg on CH.

5d enma does incredible dmg for 1 star off a counter even if its a little slow.

his OD is brutal.

His meter gain is nice.

He can spam his CT more than anyone else.

And he is badass incarnate.

This is the kind of Man we need in the white house.

Edited December 7, 2012 by TheBossGiga

[itsme]

I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen this already but oh well. Theres a 6k combo off a drive towards the end.

Hakumen Combos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OwJa1xo2G4

Just checked out the original video on nico. I think it's interesting to note that the OP for the video noted the 6C FC in the video uses max charge for the forced fatal, but it is also confirmed from any other FC 6C hit confirmed at that range. I wonder if we can get into the same setup after a DP bait.

[Spark]

do we know for certain if the enma off parries isn't invincible? i don't remember hearing about it. (or seeing it in matches for that matter)

There's a video where Hakumen counters Makoto's orb on wake up with 2D and does an enma that gets hit by the orb because Makoto was blocking. I'll see if I can find it.

[StarGazer]

There's a video where Hakumen counters Makoto's orb on wake up with 2D and does an enma that gets hit by the orb because Makoto was blocking. I'll see if I can find it.

http://youtu.be/lz5liFqaO1A?t=8m55s

Note: The Invu ends after enma started its active frames

Edited December 7, 2012 by StarGazer

[dioxideUniversa]

got it, thanks!