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Come to think of it, doesn't the new enma nerf it into being unsafe on block? Right now I see it sometimes being used as a ghetto anti air, but if you can't jump cancel it anymore than i assume that Haku will be more likely to get punished for it

 

edit: they will likely change it's blockstun or recovery because i doubt that it will stay -19 on block ,

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I'm more interested in whether or not you can combo off of it at max range, since I use it to catch jumpouts and backdashes a lot.

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This might be interesting for Hakumen players related to Enma

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&t=1h52m39s

 

edit: quality is still horrible because it's still being processed/converted by youtube

 

Not sure what to say about Enma here. Either HH didn't punish Hakumen for a blocked Enma or the move is safer

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&t=1h53m04s

 

And you can still link a jump after Enma, because he was able to tk Hotaru after Enma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&t=1h56m13s

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Huh, it doesn't jump cancel, but it looks like you can still link off a high jump.

 

 

Then again, that Enma was at maximum height.

Posted

So let's see now:

 

 

- Zantetsu is still good

- Counters are now special/super cancellable

- 4C has faster startup, and may have lost it's charge function

- Counter>Enma seems to move slightly farther

- Enma no long Jump cancellable.

 

 

 

 

I really like the counter change honestly, it finally gives them more utility even if we don't have 1f 6D anymore.

 

Is this the complete list of changes?

 

Boring if so. Back to playing Hearthstone~

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No, those were the "highlighted" changes from the famitsu articles. For some characters there are surely more changes based on the livestreams from a few weeks ago and today's stream

Posted

Is this the complete list of changes?

 

Boring if so. Back to playing Hearthstone~

 

Lawl, Sohpis is done with the H-train for now.

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This might be interesting for Hakumen players related to Enma

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&t=1h52m39s

 

edit: quality is still horrible because it's still being processed/converted by youtube

 

Not sure what to say about Enma here. Either HH didn't punish Hakumen for a blocked Enma or the move is safer

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&t=1h53m04s

 

And you can still link a jump after Enma, because he was able to tk Hotaru after Enma.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrsWN7pMjDM&t=1h56m13s

 

j.2A didn't push Hakumen backwards or stop his momentum on block/hit.

 

not only is 4C faster, the recovery is shorter. He does two back to back in the time it'd probably take to do one right now.

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Just some observations I saw from that stream.

 

-Renka (1) doesn't knock down anymore, causes stagger stun

 

-Counters don't give meter for countering projectile, only successful grab gives 1 star once again

 

-Seems there's some way to determine when the counter grab comes out.

 

-backthrow causes ground bounce similar to CT counter grabs, can combo into using kishuu > staircase combo

Posted

So... I guess they made 5D into Yukikaze more useful now, huh? Although only if opponent is on autopilot with their projectile + approach shtick.

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If the opponent uses a projectile and still gets hit by 5D>Yukikaze, they deserve whatever happens to them.

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You'd be surprised by the amount of people who are really competent with their characters, but still don't know that Yukikaze and Shippu are unblockable. I sometimes have to send people PSN messages telling them to avoid and not block. Really, 5D > Yuki is just gonna be a scrub destroyer gimmick and nothing else in the end.

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The J2A change is pretty cool imo, it might make for a pretty solid jump in option?

I'm kind of excited to try CP2 Hakumen tbh. The whole enma not being jump cancellable kind of had me down, but I'm looking forward to messing with the new drive properties and stuff.

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He's able to combo hop Hotaru after landing Enma. That makes me think other links should be possible. Maybe hop forward 2C, or 5A.

 

It's just a question of what you can fit into that range in time.

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