[CS2] Iron Tager Video Thread

[Heroic_Legacy]

If I had to say how they were doing VC to 720

I'd say it's more like

63214D(Charge)78(One spin)96321478C(5k)

But either way, it doesn't matter. What does matter, is how long do we have to cancel VC...if it was confirmed I would be rather happy.

[Mike Z]

360A, 5B->4D on Haz (means on most!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFk7HVwPBU#t=4m43s

Hammer's projectile armor lasts at least until active ends http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFk7HVwPBU#t=5m13s

Primer stuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RQ5ZPtoB9kg#t=322s

[Isorropia]

Also 3C is air unblockable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5ZPtoB9kg#t=9m03s

Doesn't look terribly useful though. >.>

[OrionXElite]

Also 3C is air unblockable: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5ZPtoB9kg#t=9m03s

Doesn't look terribly useful though. >.>

Its to prevent exactly what happened in the video, IB the hit before it then jump out. It forces people to actually just sit and block cause as it is now, Tager's blockstrings are a joke.

[A.X.I.S.]

I noticed 3C unblockable too, and believe me its lol.

It will have its uses especially if you have spark.

[Isorropia]

Its to prevent exactly what happened in the video, IB the hit before it then jump out. It forces people to actually just sit and block cause as it is now, Tager's blockstrings are a joke.

But that's the thing: it's to prevent exactly that and....it fails at doing that. The opponent immediately neutral techs (no combo outside of like...RC 2B or RC spark) and at best you get a midrange pressure reset when they get back up.

Also worth noting was that was 5A (IB'd) > 3C. With the IB nerf it's harder to jump out of tager's pressure in general, if the tager did 5A > 5B > 3C > 2B > AC etc, (I think) he would have caught him before he was actually capable of jumping, and converted the jump-defeating-string into a combo with damage and knockdown, rather than just giving a neutral bounce tech.

[Manta]

360A, 5B->4D on Haz (means on most!) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFk7HVwPBU#t=4m43s

That would be consistent with the fact all characters drop close enough to 22D after a 360A. Question is of course, which is the most preferable to use against which characters?

[MooMooAkai]

I get the feeling that out of preference, I just won't be using it on Makoto half the time for starters. Options are almost better making her run back up to you.

[A.X.I.S.]

Haha someone posted a tier list in IRC and you know what?

Its not BB unless tager is bottom tier.

Anyways merry Christmas to you guys.

360A leaving people closer also means we can beat tech rolls with 2D, something we could always do off 360B.

I like the slight improvements but I hate the fact they never fixed him. -_-

[Astaroth136]

I'll take slight improvements over nothing any day. I never expect him to shoot up the list.

Merry Christmas!

[Shinkada]

I like Tager now. Hell, I liked him before, but I like him even more now. Yeah, he's gimmicky as hell, and nothing he has is safe, but he's got so many gimmicks that if you use good mind games you can still do well. Not every character has to be all recyclable safe blockstrings and low risk high reward spacing.

http://www.youtube.com/user/jourdal#...HVwPBU#t=4m28s Confirmation on 6A's godlike status. JAYOKU NOPETENJIN

[natearistata]

That link just goes to Jourdal's channel without the video.

Also just watched the new Tachikawa singles. Yay 20+ second Makoto corner combos.

[Shinkada]

Yeah I fucked up the link, my bad. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFk7HVwPBU#t=4m28s

But it doesn't matter because Lumination handily pointed out that Houtenjin whiffed. Which is weird, I'm damn sure that would've been a hit in CS1. Tager's supposedly smaller hitbox maybe?

And yeah, Makoto's 2A makes me sad.

Edited December 25, 2010 by Shinkada

[natearistata]

6A might pull his hitbox back a bit too. Would make sense, but I dunno.

[Darlos9D]

For a second I thought the 6A ate the hit... but nope. Just whiffed. I was puzzled as well.

Well whatever, I'll take what I can get, lol.

[Silius]

Hitboxes are most likely the same as in CS1, and if you compare them:

http://imagefrog.net/show.php/134239_cc.jpg

Thing is you're not stuck in that single hitbox as Tager in CS1 for long and Hazama was pretty far away. The Hazama player probably wasn't aware of the deceptive hitbox Tager has on his charged 6A.

[Shinkada]

Wow, thanks a lot for that Silius. So 6A does reduce your hitbox, at least as far as the arms go. Just never noticed it before 'cus you couldn't hold it in place.

That's pretty neat. Also cool because it shifts his hitbox back just as far as most characters' regular range, that'll be fun for oki shenanigans, especially if what was said earlier about it only taking 2500 damage is true.

[Commanderoftroy]

To go along with the hype of CS2 tager my brother made this for me for christmas and we could possibly run some prints of it if people were interested in a buying a sweatshirt.

[Koopa_Klawz]

holy shit that's nice. how much you selling for?

[Commanderoftroy]

holy shit that's nice. how much you selling for?

60 to cover the cost of sweatshirt and screen print if enough wanted one here we could do them for 50 with a bulk order. Any color sweatshirt obviously and its one of a kind.

[Heroic_Legacy]

Lining does not look to be able to withstand Soviet Russian winter.

Dislike 'Head Games' Should be replaced with 'Gigantic' considering where the Tager is positioned.

[Skye]

Quit hating, Heroic.

[Commanderoftroy]

Lining does not look to be able to withstand Soviet Russian winter.

Dislike 'Head Games' Should be replaced with 'Gigantic' considering where the Tager is positioned.

Considering you have to play head games to win with tager annnnnnddd your about slam someones head into the ground its pretty apropos.

[Skye]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm13136218

Yuumura ripping through ass.

[natearistata]

why did I think I had read that they were getting rid of Arakune 100% curse combos?

that match-up looks as great as ever