Moblin Posted April 9, 2011 Posted April 9, 2011 (edited) This hakumen (is it Tenchi?) takes a crack at the carl that dominates this video at about 36:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7oi3vBg1vw&feature=feedu He used a tsubaki ---> airdash combo that looked really sweet. Almost beat him. He's also in this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ukIcLMoFo&feature=feedu Here he gets revenge on the carl. This video is like haku heaven. The counters are just superb. Is it safe to say that haku vs carl matchup is not nearly as bad as it is for other characters? The haku can guess and do a regular counter, or just cover all the options with super counter. It doesn't completely negate carl's resets since he can bait the counters, but it forces him to think about the right time to do a reset. Haku comes back at 29 minutish. I loved this. The way he hotaru'd through the pressure into a 5k combo was just amazing. I am totally hyped for CS2. What do you guys think? Edited April 9, 2011 by Moblin
Sophisticat Posted April 9, 2011 Posted April 9, 2011 What the heck is Tenchi doing being so reckless? I guess that's just his style... Anyway, Haku - Carl has always been at least .5 in Haku's favor in my opinion. Haku's range and footsies are simply superior to Carl's and control a lot of his movement options. Sandwich is still a threat, but Carl can't autopilot because of counters and Haku's potentially big damage. If Haku makes Carl work to get to him, it can be a frustrating match for the Carl.
Spark Posted April 9, 2011 Posted April 9, 2011 Anyone know if that 5K combo is possible any where? Or do they have to hit a corner for the j.2C to connect? (It looks like it doesn't quite corner carry if you're in the corner when you start, though the fact that it carries as far as it does it pretty crazy)
zreb Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) PRFARMY's Haku is in several of the recent Nishi Nippori 2on2 vids! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0xRhB4q_34#t=0m12s vs. Lambda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0xRhB4q_34#t=4m51s vs. Carl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE8HoagYJR0#t=11m01s vs. Hazama http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3__TeuFWCQg#t=0m18s vs. Makoto http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3hC_Ba2JRI#t=0m19s vs. Tsubaki http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3hC_Ba2JRI#t=7m55s vs. Litchi Tenchi and another Haku who's name I can't read are still running a-cho (timestamps in the comments): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y1Z-VWyW9s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0evXvofh9-k Edited April 12, 2011 by zreb
rtl42 Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 one of the white Hakumen players is Kakyuu (his name is written in kanji as 火九); the other white Hakumen is "mill".
Re4L14124c Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 holy crap that hakumen (kakyuu?names are too blurry), burst counter reads everywhere. He has really good sense and flow, but there are some really random/mysterious moves, like 6C right in front of an enemy. Also, that double yukikaze against litchi was ridiculous; it's just, I don't think I've seen anyone do that in a match.
itsme Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 (edited) That pink Hakumen is PRFarmy. One of the new and pretty good Hakumen I've seen in CS2. EDIT: Also, is it me or was Kakyuu play a bit too turtely in the new vids? He got aggressive when he needed to but I'm seeing him getting out stalled because he turtled too hard in almost all of his matches. Edited April 12, 2011 by itsme
Sophisticat Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 My favorite CS2 Hakumen right now is Chin. Gdlk use of Haku. In fact, I'm thinking of making a compilation of his CS2 matches over the weekend for quick and easy viewing.
zdravkelja Posted April 12, 2011 Posted April 12, 2011 That would be nice, I can't get to watch all matches and I don't remember seeing him at all.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Thank god, you people post videos. Anyways, I haven't abandoned the threads, I've just been occupied with my improvement since switching to to stick in november. Along with school, I finish exam friday. From there I'll go back to watching matches. I don't want to watch too much cs2 matches, and I start doing cs2 combos in cs1 lol. Anyways, bare with me all
zdravkelja Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Lol, that happens to me with Bang. I'm doing cs2 bnbs, tk C nail, ignoring 623B, etc
zreb Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) More Honkumen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpEes84Qh3s#t=5m21s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aa8zEsKNqg#t=24m50s Kakyuu again I wish I could pretend to be CS2 Haku. CS1 kishuu obstructs it tho Edited April 13, 2011 by zreb
BladeOfJustice7 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Not watching videos for now like I said. But how is cs2 hakumen looking right now? Better than before, or even better than cs1?
zreb Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) He's kind of sameish, if not a little worse (compared to CS1). No gross damage off j.D, parries prorate more, midscreen damage isn't as good per star without 5C starter. Still really big corner carry and his corner damage I believe is a bit higher. Gurren being +1 on block and late gatlings to some of his normals like 2a/5a/2b/5b is pretty nice for pressure and the new kishuu is sexy. A lot of the new combos look waaay more fun than what we have right now. Edited April 13, 2011 by zreb
zdravkelja Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) He has lower overal damage, but new stuff is found so he can still get 6k combos from midscreen corner carry. New gattlings A,B 2A, 2B. New Kishu is great, you can cancel it with any attack, counter, throw and barrier block (I think). He is maybe a little bit harder to play but overall, more fun New game plan is to zone until he gets enough stars, than he should get more offensive and/or punish with hard hitting combos. He has dropped from A/B to B/C tier i think. Edited April 13, 2011 by zdravkelja
zreb Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 He's listed a lot lower in the tier list relative to the other characters compared to CS1, but the tiers in CS2 are a lot tighter than CS1 tiers were. Several lists I saw had Haku as one of the worst characters. I'm personally not at all concerned about it, really.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Lol well he's nowhere near as shitty as ct hakumen. But that's what I felt he would fall to in cs2, a/b to b/c. Anyways, glad to see he has more gattlings with his normals that aren't slashes lol. Glad to see he has ways of dealing great damage midscreen, because those early vids, that seemed to have really killed part of him.
zreb Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 It's mixed. Most of the time he will get poor damage midscreen, but there are scenarios where you can get high damage, several of which seem to be with hotaru. There's also been vids of Hakus comboing off Tsubaki midscreen even with the huge slide. It seemed like in most cases any time he goes for big damage midscreen it ends in the corner because of all the huge launch/slide stuff.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Posted April 13, 2011 Wow good shit, can't wait to get back into watching matches. I have noticed the huge buff to kishuu early on though, kinda hard to ignore.
The Katz Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8SvALPvQhE Haku vs Blood Kain
itsme Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 IIRC, Hakumen along with Ragna was listed on many of the tier lists as right around the middle, so he's still at a decent level. I miss special cancelable forward throw but the new combos looks much more flashier because the opponent flies over everywhere with Hotaru and Tsubaki, as well as DAT Kishuu.
Sophisticat Posted April 13, 2011 Posted April 13, 2011 Meter gain and average damage is worse, but close-quarter pressure is better. It's now easier to optimally break 5k and corner damage/options are more lethal. Despite this, he's still listed as bottom of B tier, though I'm not too clear on why. Maybe the rest of the cast simply has better stuff. He does have to be played smarter. Combos look a lot more fun, though. I think I'll be working on making my Haku into walking combo vid material in CS2 matches now. :]
zreb Posted April 14, 2011 Posted April 14, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4x5eQgT-HI#t=13m50s Kakyuu
Sophisticat Posted April 15, 2011 Posted April 15, 2011 Here it is: the BBCS2 Chin compilation! I put in all the CS2 vids I could find. If anyone knows of more, please tell me so I can update with the next compilation I make in a couple months.
zreb Posted April 16, 2011 Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YowoEFMNEZM#t=2m26s Sodomu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAR_670Vdm4#t=3m19s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wsx_yr4VP5M this one is all mostly sodomu!!! 4:08 Edited April 16, 2011 by zreb
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